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Penberthy, Pontypridd
« on: Tuesday 18 November 25 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Guys,  I have discovered that a 1st cousin (twice removed), Haydn Thomas Preece John (b. 1917, d. 2004, Pontypridd) married a Alice Penberthy in 1939. Her parents were William Hoskin Penberthy and Elizabeth Penberthy nee George. I'm  inquiring into the name Penberthy and if William and Elizabeth are related to a certain  Pontypridd rugby legend.    Its probably a long shot though, I think the rugby player in question was born in 1943 but I don't know his parents name. But like I said at the start  ignore if not allowed, kind regards.
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Re: Penperthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 23:27 GMT (UK) »
The names of living persons are not allowed so you need to remove his name.  Have you researched the living person backwards from 1943 using freebmd to establish his parents names
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Re: Penperthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 23:32 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 marriage entry spells the surname as PenBerthy - not PenPerthy

Births Sep 1920   
Penberthy    Alice  mmn George    Pontypridd    11a   1317

You will find the birth entry for the living person above on freebmd - mmn Regan

Parents marriage is on freebmd in 1941
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Re: Penperthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 23:57 GMT (UK) »
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married a Alice Penperthy in 1939. Her parents were William Hoskin Penperthy and Elizabeth Penperthy nee George.

Death
William Hoskin Pemberty Birth Date    20 Jun 1908
March qtr 1981  Pontypridd  Volume    27  Page    1604

Bit young to have a daughter in 1920 unless he is the son of another William Hoskin Penberthy

PEMBERTHY, WILLIAM  HOSKIN      GEORGE     
GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in ABERGAVENNY  Volume 11A  Page 48
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Re: Penperthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 00:05 GMT (UK) »
William Pemberthy & Elizabeth George married in Breconshire 1904 see freebmd.  See 1911 census - neither were born in Wales
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Re: Penperthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 16:19 GMT (UK) »
You really should remove his name as still living, RootsChat rules...spam, privacy etc

They are related...

If access https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62476/records/7590686826

BP father was Robert, brother to Alice

Marriage of parents - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8753/records/46679963

Birth on freebmd with mothers maiden from marriage

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Penberthy, Pontypridd
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your answers guys and thanks for the heads up on my question (question has since been edited, hope its ok) This has been a big help and confirmed a lot of things, cheers guys, Regards
Parker
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