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Missing from 1921 census
« on: Tuesday 18 November 25 09:49 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to track down the siblings of my grandfather to try to get a better understanding of  his wider family. Reginald John Pope was born in 1894 East Stonehouse. I have him in the 1901 census, he joined the Royal Marines in 1908 and was aboard HMS Monmouth in 1911. He got married in 1916 (I'm struggling for some of the details on the wedding at St Thomas's, Coventry according to the RM families book and have the certificate on order) but why he married in Coventry is a mystery... There is no sign of him in 1921 but I know that there were 2 children born in the London area in 1921 and 1924. Harriet then died in 1928 and Reginald later remarried.

I know the family stayed around the London area and have a few stories from my father who used to go and visit.

Thanks in advance for any clues.   

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Re: Missing from 1921 census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 10:53 GMT (UK) »
On one site, he is recorded as Reginald John Isaacs.
The householder is Sydney Arthur Isaacs so that seems to be where the error in transcription has occurred.

There are some trees which show Harriet as born 1880 in Norfolk.
This seems to be wrong.
There is a Harriet Dewing 1895 in Devonport, 1901,  with parents Charles and Harriet.
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Re: Missing from 1921 census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 11:18 GMT (UK) »
In the 1921 entry found by heywood there is also a visitor in the household aged 11 with a surname very similar to Harriet Pope's maiden name.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 12:06 GMT (UK) »
I think that person was Harriet’s sister.
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Re: Missing from 1921 census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 15:14 GMT (UK) »
On one site, he is recorded as Reginald John Isaacs.
The householder is Sydney Arthur Isaacs so that seems to be where the error in transcription has occurred.

There are some trees which show Harriet as born 1880 in Norfolk. This seems to be wrong.

There is a Harriet Dewing 1895 in Devonport, 1901,  with parents Charles and Harriet.
In the 1921 entry found by heywood there is also a visitor in the household aged 11 with a surname very similar to Harriet Pope's maiden name.
I think that person was Harriet’s sister.

Possible marriage of Harriet's sister (not given full names as have not established deaths)

Miss D M Dewing
Marriage 27 Jun 1931 Plymouth
Parents   Charles James Dewing; Dewing
Spouse   C D Barrell

Unfortunately father's not named on this entry

Name R.J. Pope
Marriage  27 Aug 1916 St Thomas Coventry
Spouse   Harriett Dewing
UK, British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death Records, 1730-1960

edit to add

Harriet Dewing Birth 15 Jan 1895
Baptism 15 Mar 1895 Devonport, St Mary, Devon, England
Religion   Anglican
Father   Charles James Dewing Mother   Harriet
No image transcription only on Anc*y
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Re: Missing from 1921 census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 November 25 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information unearthed today. I had a feeling that the Harriet in other trees was not quite right so this is really good to find one with a Plymouth connection and a father in the Royal Marines.

I don't know why they were married in Coventry. I did find a marriage license for them that suggested Harriet was of the parish...

Plenty to look into. It's great to clear up the mystery of the Norfolk Harriet.

 

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 15:34 GMT (UK) »

I don't know why they were married in Coventry.

I did find a marriage license for them that suggested Harriet was of the parish...


Lnc Corpl in the R M L I - is this the Royal Marine Light Infantry? Could he have been stationed there around the time of their marriage?

Was this the Marriage License you referred too?

Reginald John Pope
Marriage License Date   26 Aug 1916
Marriage License Place   St Thomas; Coventry, Worcestershire, England
Spouse    Harriett Dewing
Description Marriage Affadavits
both of the Parish of St Thomas Coventry in the County of Warwick & Diocese of Worcester
Worcestershire, England, Marriage Licenses, 1661-1949

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Re: Missing from 1921 census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 November 25 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Lady Hawk.

That is indeed the license that I came across - there must have been a reason for her to have ended up in Coventry. I've not found time yet to look at her other details yet but plenty to go on.