Harry Morris Born 12th Sept 1886 Manchester Died 14th Sept 1940 Manchester

[Scott_M]

Hello team, Long shot here ..
Harry Morris by default is my Grt Grandfather
I have shared an amazing journey in finding out this family history and of his link to his daughter (My Gran) The power of DNA and with some luck that there was a willingness from a descendent of Harry to also cover there DNA Linking to my dear mother (who also had covered her DNA) It all came together and the facts were established .. The long shot here is the ask from the experienced Genealogist's in the crowd 

B:12 Sep 1886 Cheetham, Manchester, Lancashire, England

D:14 Sep 1940 Royal Infirmary, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Harry is laid to rest in Phillips Park Cemetery in Whitefield, Manchester

Timeline
- 1891 - Have him living wih family in Leeds
- 1901 - Living with his parents Sarah (Nee Kadish) & Benjamin Morris - From Lomza in Poland
- 1908 - 25 Aug possibly I have him sentenced to 3 days imprisonment or payment of 9pounds bastardy arrears.. Noting he is the right age, occupation and religion
- 1911 - cant find
- 1915 - Marries Bessie Sherman in Cardiff - Noting that he moves into the film industry with a crowd called Butchers? Role as a Film renter
- 1916 - 8th August - Daughter Jean Nettie Morris is born
- 1917 - October - Is appointed to the Midlands by the film bureau - Well known to exhibitors as he represented for some time Butchers film service (W. Nutcher & Sons) This is during WW1 - available for appointment so presume he is not enlisted
- 1920 - Jan 1st starts job in Glasgow with the Stoll Film Company - Having been for many years the outside man reported in newspaper in the Sth Wales for Messr`s Butcher Film Service (Not sure what the outside man means?)
- 1921 - April - My gran is born in Glasgow (Illegitimate)
- 1921 - Loses his wife Bessie due to complications from the flu (Possibly Spanish Flu?) Glasgow
- 1921 - Loses his father Benjamin
- 1921 - Has a son born Edinburgh (illegitimate) Edinburgh region - Linked through the family DNA
- 1924 - December Harry returns to sth Wales - Has been with Famous -Lasky previously with Butchers in Cardiff and Stolls in Glasgow
- 1928 - September - Leaves Cardiff to take up a Job with Warners in Manchester
- 1932 - 14 Aug marries Esther Cohen (shes 22 years younger than him)
- 1938 - Marriage of his daughter Jean Nettie Morris to Montefiore Seal at the Cardiff Synagogue - She is given away by her uncle Lewis Jacobs
- 1939 - In Manchester with wife Esther and her parents and is noted as a Film Renter / Distributor
- 1940 - Harry dies in hospital in Manchester

I have a few newspaper cuttings that could be shared but I am hoping that there may be some clues in this lot that could support further information on Harry Morris..

A colorful character in history and with the greatest of respect I would not be here with out him..

Moments of living on the edge and tragedy in the mix.. If anyone could help with further information I would be so grateful .. A picture of Harry would be gold dust ..
Thank you to all that reads this and grateful if any other help can be provided

Many Thanks
Scott

 

[AlanBoyd]

Outside Man

Looking at various newspaper items that use the term 'outside man' I have gained the impression that in the most general terms it described someone  working outside the premises of a business to advertise or sell.

In the context of the film industry I think this would be a travelling salesman acting for a film distribution company and liaising with independent cinemas. For example in the England and Wales census 1921 there is a Knud Jensen living in Beckenham and employed by the "Butcher's Film Service Ltd, cinematograph Film Renters" whose occupation is 'film renter'. I suspect that he was an outside man.

In 1921 there is a Harry Morris, a boarder at 9 Cathkin Road, Cathcart, Glasgow. His age is 35.8 and he is a widower. His employer is Stoll Film Co. Ltd., London. His occupation is 'Traveller'. This must be your ancestor even though his place of birth is recorded as "Lanark Glasgow".

[AlanBoyd]

23 July 1925: The Bioscope

With the Renters
Mr. R. Speed has relinquished his position with the Stoll Film Company.

Mr. Harry Morris, the popular outside representative for Famous-Lasky in South Wales, is holidaying in Paris.

Looking fit and well, Mr. A. M. Bass, Ideal's manager in South Wales, has returned from his holidays.

[Scott_M]

Thank you Alan for the input and support.
Thats a couple of good finds ..
On the staying in Cathkin road, Thats an interesting one His wife Bessie Sherman had passed away on the 8th March 1921 and location was 27 Apsley Place, Gorbals, Glasgow .. Not sure if there is any other detail ? maybe a date ? was that a Census Alan ? His wife Bessie is laid to rest in the Sandymount Cemetery in Glasgow ...