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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 04 December 25 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the replies ,maps most interesting,so detailed.
Maybe  MollyC ,George & Johns mum & dad were in the pub-The Three Jolly Tars, when the enumerator called.
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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #46 on: Friday 05 December 25 11:19 GMT (UK) »
It would be a five mile walk home to Beverley!

As Samuel Beckett was an agricultural labourer in 1851, it seems likely John and George were born at one of the farms.

I have had a very prompt reply from NLS Maps who have explained they are in the middle of scanning another set of 6-inch maps which are being loaded as single sheets, and will replace the damaged one in the continuous layer, when the set is finished.

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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 06 December 25 17:47 GMT (UK) »
MollyC--the 1851 census shows them being at Wilfsholm,the Inn is the next entry.
I would like to complete Samuel Becketts wife,Mary Barbers tree but am stuck with the 1841 census and  her birth.
She married in Beverley in 1843,1861 census born North Dalton, close by,but 1851 census shows born Selby some 40 miles away.
Any help again appreciated.
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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 06 December 25 22:51 GMT (UK) »
I would like to complete Samuel Becketts wife, Mary Barbers tree but am stuck with the 1841 census and  her birth.
She married in Beverley in 1843, 1861 census born North Dalton, close by, but 1851 census shows born Selby some 40 miles away.


Do you have her marriage certificate? There is a transcription on Anc* y of marriage no image
What was her father John’s occupation?

There is this record on Anc* y image available to view

Mary Barber Birth 9 Mar 1822
Baptism 19 Mar 1822 Bethesda Chapel New Lane Independent, Selby, York
Father John Barber occ Grocer Mother Ann Foster
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936

Possibly John & Ann on 1841
Piece   1229
Folio   58
Page number   5
John Barber 40 J grocer
Ann Barber 40
Elizabeth Barber 15
Jane Barber 15
Ellen Barber 13
Ann Smith 5mths a nurse child

Jane Foster Barber
Birth Date   26 Jan 1828
Birth Place   Bentley, Yorkshire
Baptism 6 Mar 1828 Beverley, Yorkshire
Denomination   Independent
Father John Barber, occ grocer Mother   Ann
Image on Anc* y

Added 1851

Piece   2359
Folio   254
Page number   19

John Barbar 53 Head Benningbro Yorkshire occ Grocer
Ann 53 Wife Routh, Yorkshire
Ellen 20 Daughter Beverley, Yorkshire
Annie Smyth 10 Visitor ditto
Henry Smyth 5 Visitor ditto

Ellen Barber Birth 22 Apr 1830
Baptism 28 Apr 1830 Beverley, Yorkshire
Denomination   Independent
Father John Barber, occ grocer Mother Ann
Image on Anc*y

Marriage 27 Feb 1819 York, England
John Barber 21
Spouse Ann Foster 21
England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 - no image

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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 07 December 25 08:39 GMT (UK) »
AMENDED:
Findmypast has the last entry above (1819) indexed in "Archbishop of York Marriage Licences Index".  Intended marriage place = Routh.
So the date relates to the licence and ages may not be accurate. No image.

BUT the parish record is in "Yorkshire Marriages" index, at Routh, East Riding.  Image available.

ADDED: See Baines' Directory 1822: Selby, Grocers & Tea dealers
Barber John, Market place
https://leicester.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/139397/rec/2
 
AND Pigot's Directory 1828: Beverley, Grocers & Tea dealers
Barber John, North bar st within
https://leicester.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/232161/rec/13

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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 07 December 25 13:36 GMT (UK) »
His wife a Mary Barber born 1822.

After Samuels death it would seem that Mary may have abandoned her children as I cannot find any trace of her after 1851.

I would like to complete Samuel Becketts wife, Mary Barbers tree but am stuck with the 1841 census and her birth.

She married in Beverley in 1843, 1861 census born North Dalton, close by, but 1851 census shows born Selby some 40 miles away.


Still looking to see if I can find her in 1841.

gracol you mentioned  you couldn't find Mary after 1851 and then you say you have found Mary in 1861 born North Dalton - could you please post details of the 1861 census entry you have found as I'm having trouble finding it ???
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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 07 December 25 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Ladyhawk-you did find it,see reply 40,also Ospreys reply 39.
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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 07 December 25 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Ladyhawk-you did find it,see reply 40,also Ospreys reply 39.

That was a Mary Robson born Selby

Ok did I miss read as I thought you had found a Mary Beckett born North Dalton
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Re: Harry Green who married Alice Beckett 1900
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 07 December 25 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Ladyhawk,hope I have got all this right !
Mary Barber born 1822 Selby.
1843 she married & became Beckett (husband died 1852).
She remarried in 1860 & became Mary Robson.
1861 Census Mary Robson.
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