William Peffer

[CHERAN]

Hi am looking for information re the deaths

PEFFER: William  there is a death on the GRO 1887
PEFFER: Emma born Taylor

I am tracing their daughter Alice Maud Heffer and have her marriage on the war records of her Husband Harold Shurven in 1917 (Harold is soldier from South Australia) I have these records Alice born in England died in South Australia

William is recorded as Packinging Case Maker on  this marriage record (also the same on his marriage to Emma) but is not recorded as deceased Alice's marriage record.

I can't seem to find anything on find a grave for Emma and William...

Thanks in advance

Cheran

update  I have found Emma (nee Taylor) and the 3 children on 1891 census she is widowed so the 1887 death is a possiblilty. and on the 1901 marriage of Alice's sister Emma in 1901 records her dad as William Augusta Peffer deceased (Packinging Case Maker)

Emma (nee Taylor) re marries to a George Watkins in 1896!

[Neale1961]

Alice Maud Peffer bapt April 1886 in Shoreditch
Father William is a “dealer”

1881 census St Leonards Shoreditch
William Peffer 35 born Shoreditch packing case s….?
Emma Peffer 28 wife

MARRIAGE 9 Mar 1878 Saint Mary, Haggerston
William Peffer bachelor, packing case maker. Father – Richard Peffer, egg marchant
to Emma Taylor

BAPTISM William CHarles Pfeffer
4 Jun. 1848 Bermondsey: Tooley Street, Southwark
Father – Richard Augustus Pfeffer (egg merchant); mother Mary Ann Pfeffer

DEATH
PEFFER, WILLIAM       Age 39 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in BARNET  Volume 03A  Page 139

[CHERAN]

Hi am looking for information re the deaths

PEFFER: William  there is a death on the GRO 1887
PEFFER: Emma born Taylor

I am tracing their daughter Alice Maud Heffer and have her marriage on the war records of her Husband Harold Shurven in 1917 (Harold is soldier from South Australia) I have these records Alice born in England died in South Australia

William is recorded as Packinging Case Maker on  this marriage record (also the same on his marriage to Emma) but is not recorded as deceased Alice's marriage record.

I can't seem to find anything on find a grave for Emma and William...

Thanks in advance

Cheran

update  I have found Emma (nee Taylor) and the 3 children on 1891 census she is widowed so the 1887 death is a possiblilty. and on the 1901 marriage of Alice's sister Emma in 1901 records her dad as William Augusta Peffer deceased (Packinging Case Maker)

Emma (nee Taylor) re marries to a George Watkins in 1896!

I am wondering if there is a variation with surname spelling "PFEFFER" adds another complexity

[CHERAN]

Alice Maud Peffer bapt April 1886 in Shoreditch
Father William is a “dealer”

1881 census St Leonards Shoreditch
William Peffer 35 born Shoreditch packing case s….?
Emma Peffer 28 wife

MARRIAGE 9 Mar 1878 Saint Mary, Haggerston
William Peffer bachelor, packing case maker. Father – Richard Peffer, egg marchant
to Emma Taylor

BAPTISM William CHarles Pfeffer
4 Jun. 1848 Bermondsey: Tooley Street, Southwark
Father – Richard Augustus Pfeffer (egg merchant); mother Mary Ann Pfeffer

DEATH
PEFFER, WILLIAM       Age 39 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in BARNET  Volume 03A  Page 139

Thanks so much, I saw this after i posted about the possibility of it being "Pfeffer"

[Neale1961]

Marriage St Botolph, Aldgate March 1845
Richard Augustus PFEFFER (bachelor, egg merchant) to Mary DRURY (widow)
On this record Richard names his father as William Pfeffer – vellum binder

1851 census Bethnal Green
Richard PEFFER, 28 born Bethnal Green, egg merchant
Wife Mary and children William and Henry

By 1881 census Clerkenwell
Richard A PFEFFER 61 egg and fish grocer
He has a second wife Annie Maria HARIES who he married in 1865 Hackney
On this 2nd marriage record Richard names his father as William Pfeffer – Deceased, mariner.


Baptism Richard Augustus PFEFFER
12 May 1822 (born 1st April) St Giles, Cripplegate London
Parents - William and Ann Mary Elizabeth PFEFFER Vellum binder, Jewin street


MARRIAGE 1811 Saint Mary Woolnoth, City of London
 William PFEFFER to Ann Mary Elizabeth SHEPHARD

[CHERAN]

Thanks so Much...

I will add the details into my data base and keep searching...

On William's birth on the GRO it has the Mother's maiden name as Rickman same for his brother Alfred Henry, so the next?   Is Mary Ann Drury who is widow on marriage marry a Drury.... only problem it records her father's name as William Drury.

1861 Census has Richard with William and his brother Henry and sisters Mary Ann and Mary Louisa and a Julia whos aged 0.... and wife is Ann?   

I am chasing myself here.   A Julia Emma Harris Peffer is buried 10 June Hackney  Her birth is 1861    

PFEFFER, JULIA  EMMA     Mother Maiden Name is HARRIS 
the Gro ref is  1861  M Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 97 
 
but there is another Julia E on 1881 census!
Cheran

[Neale1961]

BAPTISMS
William CHarles Pfeffer bapt 4 Jun 1848 Surrey  (Parents - Richard augustus and Mary Ann)
BIRTH REGO
PFEFFER, WILLIAM  CHARLES     Mother - RICKMAN 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT OLAVE'S UNION SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 497


Alfred Henry Pfeffer bapt 30 Sep 1849 Shoreditch (parents - Richard Augustus and Mary ann)
BIRTH REGO
PFEFFER, ALFRED  HENRY     Mother - BUCKMAN (Error? – RUCKMAN)
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 70


Mary Ann Pfeffer
Bapt 11 Sep 1853 (born 9 Aug 1851) Shoreditch (parents - Richard Augustus and Mary ann)
BIRTH REGO
PEPPER, MARY  ANN     Mother - RUCKMAN 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 01C  Page 106


See 1851 census Bethnal Green
Sarah Ruckman age 56 (the mother of Mary) is living with the Peffer family.

Sarah Ruckman (age 65) burial 14 July 1859 St Leonard's, Shoreditch

[Neale1961]

I am chasing myself here.   A Julia Emma Harris Peffer is buried 10 June Hackney  Her birth is 1861    

PFEFFER, JULIA  EMMA     Mother Maiden Name is HARRIS 
the Gro ref is  1861  M Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 97 
 
but there is another Julia E on 1881 census!

Yes, two daughters. Second one taking the name of the first after she died.

BIRTH
PFEFFER, JULIA  EMMA     Mother - HARRIS 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 97
 
DEATH
PEFFER, JULIA  EMMA HARRIS    Age 3 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 89

BIRTH
PFEFFER, JULIA  EMMA     Mother - HARRIS 
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 74
  

[CHERAN]

BAPTISMS
William CHarles Pfeffer bapt 4 Jun 1848 Surrey  (Parents - Richard augustus and Mary Ann)
BIRTH REGO
PFEFFER, WILLIAM  CHARLES     Mother - RICKMAN 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT OLAVE'S UNION SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 497


Alfred Henry Pfeffer bapt 30 Sep 1849 Shoreditch (parents - Richard Augustus and Mary ann)
BIRTH REGO
PFEFFER, ALFRED  HENRY     Mother - BUCKMAN (Error? – RUCKMAN)
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 70


Mary Ann Pfeffer
Bapt 11 Sep 1853 (born 9 Aug 1851) Shoreditch (parents - Richard Augustus and Mary ann)
BIRTH REGO
PEPPER, MARY  ANN     Mother - RUCKMAN 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 01C  Page 106


See 1851 census Bethnal Green
Sarah Ruckman age 56 (the mother of Mary) is living with the Peffer family.

Sarah Ruckman (age 65) burial 14 July 1859 St Leonard's, Shoreditch

Thankyou, 


Birth Rego

PFEFFER, MARIA       Mother's Maiden name: RUCKMAN 
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 01C  Page 120

Maria's Birth & Baptisim date : 12 Mar 1855 and 1 April 1855


I found the 1841 Census

Wllm Ruckman age 45 Sarah Ruckman age 45. Wllm Ruckman 15, Mary Ann 10, Elizabeth 8

Elizabeth Baptised 1832, Mother Sarah Father Willm and looks to have married Edward Charles Pfeffer in 1849, father William Ruckman

There is a Bapt of Mary Ann Ruckman 18 May 1828  birth 11 Jan F: Wlm M: Sarah St. Mary, Newington, Surrey Co., England  would this be too far from Shoreditch?