Kitty Ryan

[Stephen K]

What he tells me about Nettie/Kitty is that she is supposed to have had special needs and therefore, probably never married. It seems that any information he has comes from his now long-deceased mother.

[aghadowey]

What he tells me about Nettie/Kitty is that she is supposed to have had special needs and therefore, probably never married. It seems that any information he has comes from his now long-deceased mother.

Was 'Kitty' his mother's sibling or aunt? if so, what was his mother's name or the name of the Kitty's sibling she is descended from? Probably easier to find the family through her rather than Kitty or whatever her name was.

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[aghadowey]

Staying with the family of Michael Ryan and Catherine Higgins-
This could be them in 1901 with daughter Joanna[h]-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Kilmeadan/Ballycahane/1768185/
Ballycahane townland just south of Portlaw-
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/upperthird/guilcagh/kilmeadan/ballycahane/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Kilmeaden/Ballycahane/909544/
Interestingly lists 6 children/4 living.
We have births of 4 (Mary, Pierce, Johannah, Bridget) and know that Pierce and Johanna[h] were alive in 1911. So, who are the two missing children and which of the 6 children died before 1911?

[Stephen K]

Firstly thank you for all your help.
I followed your link to the 1911 census but that only brings up Michael, Kate and a daughter Mary. I don't see where you get the list of six.

[aghadowey]

Firstly thank you for all your help.
I followed your link to the 1911 census but that only brings up Michael, Kate and a daughter Mary. I don't see where you get the list of six.

Two ways to view the entire page-
1. click on the box 'show all information' on right side (transcription)
2. click on 'household return (form a)' to see actual record-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003953658/

[aghadowey]

? Death of groom Michael Ryan, widower-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/04989/4360663.pdf

[aghadowey]

Bridget Walsh, wife of Pierce Ryan-
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199432202/bridget-ryan

[aghadowey]

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Kilmeaden/Ballycahane/909544/
Interestingly lists 6 children/4 living.
We have births of 4 (Mary, Pierce, Johannah, Bridget) and know that Pierce and Johanna[h] were alive in 1911. So, who are the two missing children and which of the 6 children died before 1911?

Actually, I was forgetting about son Michael (1882-1894) 

[aghadowey]

Found a second deceased child- Bridget in 1892. Address is 2 Bridge St. Portlaw.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06024/4715496.pdf