Smith's help!

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It was worth a try.

SS, a year older today

[wilcoxon]

The inquest is in Manchester Times 12 March 1881.
John Smith was of Worsley Street Deansgate.

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1881--4, Worsley Street, Manchester

John   Smith Head married 48 Smallware weaver b    Manchester
Anne   Smith Wife Married 47 Smallware winder b Manchester
Thomas Smith Son 19 Copper smith b Manchester
Alice   Smith Daughter   15 Domestic serv b Manchester

SS

[Cas (stallc)]

Don't know if connected but have been looking at this family. Ann is not the mother of the McAndry sons as 1871 that is Catherine nee McCormack who dies March Q 1879.

1881 - Bradford, Manchester
James Mc Andry   48   Head
Ann Mc Andry 40 Wife
Arthur Mc Andry 20 Son
William Mc Andry 18 Son
Janes Welsh 70,  Mother in Law
Mary J. Smith 11 Niece, Manchester

If access - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7572/records/10852278

Added - Think the connection maybe to wife Ann?

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

1891 same family in Bradford, Lancs

all dittoed b Ireland

James McAndrew 56   Head
Ann McAndrew 50   Wife
Jane Welsh 70   Mother-in-law
Mary Jane Smith   21   Niece (occ is similar to marriage info)
John W Smith 18   Brother (brother to Mary Jane?)
Maggie Smith 16   Sister

If access - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6598/records/21062913

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Bradford/ looks quite near to Ancoats

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

There is this possible death for wife Ann that would fit with last census

Honora McAndry
Age   59
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1838
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place   Prestwich, Lancashire
Death Date   Dec 1897
Volume   8d Page   218

So likely this marriage connects

Honora Byrne - James McAndry same page.
Registration Year   1879
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   Manchester
Inferred County   Lancashire
Volume   8d Page   379

Maybe a long shot but Byrne and Burns are similar. Although could have been married previously.  Also Ann can be a pet form of Honora

[wilcoxon]

That 1891 is interesting.

1861 London Road Manchester
James McAndey29Head b Ireland
Catherine McAndey33Wife "
Nathan McAndey9Son "
James McAndey6Son "
Arthur McAndey3/12Son mmn McCormick. B Manchester
Ellen McCormack40Sister-in-law

[wilcoxon]

Civil marriage
MCANDRYJames
BYRNEHonora1879
Manchester Register Office or Registrar AttendedArchives+,
Manchester Central LibraryMCR_RM/97/104
Lancashire FreeBmd

[jonwarrn]

Just posting this as a ref:, it may or maynot be the correct 1871 census re opening post

Smiths Court, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Manchester rate books (dated in September 1871 and September 1872)
1871 has John Smith at 2 Smith Court
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XWV-J1

1872 has Mary Smith at 2 Smith Court
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GG9-S21

Had John died?
Mind you, all the other names are different.

Add in (October) 1873, no Smiths
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6FQ9-BS