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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Tree on Ancestry shows Alice married in Canada 1915 to Joseph Mulvaney & died 1916 in Canada

Son George Edward Crowther b 1907 Shropshire

There is also a Gilbert Hume Crowther b 1905 Southwark but a tree on Ancestry shows different parents
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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for finding the 1921 census on Ancestry.  Someone certainly made a mess of the transcription!!

I have researched the family extensively and as follows.

Alice married Robert Crowther and they lived at Port Sunlight.  The family folklore said Alice and her husband died and the two children were re-homed with Alice's father and second wife and a brother and his wife.  I found that Robert died in 1913 and that they had three children.  In early 1914 Alice went to Canada where she had an older sister.  Alice re-married in Canada (Joseph Mulvaney) who then died at Vimy Ridge in World War One and is commemorated there.  Alice died not long afterwards from alcoholic poisoning.  Joseph left instructions for money to go to England for Alice's children but the Canadian military refused.  Robert and Alice's son stayed, so far as I know, with his grandparents while his sister, Kathleen, went to her Uncle Roderick when he married and was raised with their own son.  No-one knew about the third child (Robert Lionel Crowther) I found and I have been tracking him.  I believe Alice may have intended to return to the UK or send for her children but World War One got in the way.  I suspect the youngest child went to his father's family and was 'lost' to the Hume family.

It is a sorry tale .............

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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Being fair to the transcriber the surname of Roderick does look like HURNE, the letter after the u looks like the r in Stuart  :).  Kathleens surname looks like Crowsher  ;D.

The rest of it is a shambles though.
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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 14:23 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Rosie.

You have the advantage of knowing Rodericks surname. Looking at it as someone who doesn’t know is a different matter. I think Hurne is a reasonable transcription.

I would definitely have transcribed Kathleen’s surname as Crowsher.

How the transcriber made Roderick into Frederick is another matter….
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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 15:01 GMT (UK) »

In early 1914 Alice went to Canada where she had an older sister. 

Birth of Alice's older sister, Eugenia Teresa Mary Hume - 28 June 1879 at Lurgan, Co Armagh.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1879/02911/2066664.pdf


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Re: Help on 1921 Census
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Son Robert Lionel Crowther b 1912 can be found in Liverpool in 1921 as a boarder.  He died 1986 Liverpool
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 15:12 GMT (UK) »

Marriage of Hume/O'Hanlon - 12 June 1878 - Lurgan Parish Church. Edward a sergeant in the 94th Regiment.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11100/8062572.pdf


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