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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Neale, missed that!

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Wow! 
I wake up this morning to all your very helpful sources and further researches. [I will open all the links this afternoon].

I am needing to rebuild my whole RIPPINGILLE family with better quality sources.  I recently spotted an unknown marriage and wife on an Ancestry tree and so needed to check it out and double check my own research that was done decades ago. [No responses from the tree owner].

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/182602647/person/132377797002/facts

https://www.combedown.org/tng/getperson.php?personID=I132377797002&tree=PtNfm2023
Srijah, Christiana
Birth   Abt 1830
3rd wife of:
Rippingille, Edward Alexander  [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
Birth   Abt 1826    Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Gender   Male
Married   Jul 1863    Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
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BUT the ORMSKIRK marriage is for another wife:
Marriages Sep 1863   (>99%)
Rippingville    Edward Alexander Ormskirk    8b   1019    
Sidebotham    Ellen        Ormskirk    8b   1019    

I wonder which country the SRIJAH family belongs?  Perhaps Edward met her on a stop-off whilst travelling from or to Australia?

Many thanks for all your help.

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Elliot, I would advise that you ignore the trees that you have added links to. It is quite obvious that much of the information on them is just rubbish. There are no supporting sources or documents. There is no evidence of a wife, Christiana Srijah.

Always do your own research, and avoid copying errors or getting confused with errors from others trees.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Death and funeral notices for Elizabeth

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5685972
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5686017

MADDY
Many thanks for finding this Death Notice for Elizabeth BRYANT [after 8 months of painful illness].
My Ancestry hints has just popped up with the missing marriage for Alex RIPPINGILLE.
and therefore a different mother to my Alice Rose RIPPINGILLE born 24 Nov 1859 to Christiana SRIJAH! 

 Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
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Name   Alice Rose Rippingille   
Birth   Abt 1858 Brighton, Victoria   
Father   Alexander Rippingille   
Mother   Christiana Srijah

Alice Rose Rippingille
Birth 24 NOV 1859 • Gippsland, Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Death 4 MAY 1901 • Pinner HENDON Middlesex England
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So good to now have the correct maternal line when before yesterday I had no idea that there was any query!
If I now presume that Christiana might have other SRIJAH family in Australia at this time, how might I proceed?  Census, BMD, Newspapers, Passenger lists?
I wonder if there are many SRIJAH in Australia or may be they are from another country India or Ceylon?
Again thankyou to you all!


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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 13:28 GMT (UK) »

Name   Alice Rose Rippingille   
Birth   Abt 1858 Brighton, Victoria   
Father   Alexander Rippingille   
Mother   Christiana Srijah

Alice Rose Rippingille
Birth 24 NOV 1859 • Gippsland, Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Death 4 MAY 1901 • Pinner HENDON Middlesex England
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So good to now have the correct maternal line when before yesterday I had no idea that there was any query!
If I now presume that Christiana might have other SRIJAH family in Australia at this time, how might I proceed?  Census, BMD, Newspapers, Passenger lists?
I wonder if there are many SRIJAH in Australia or may be they are from another country India or Ceylon?


Repeating, that this information appears to be incorrect. Don’t rely on bad transcriptions of indexes.
Obtain Alice Rose’s birth certificate, and read the details yourself. Link for Victorian BMD certificates was provided earlier. There is no point proceeding without correct information.

Do let us know where and when Ancestry thinks there was a marriage to the non- existent Miss Srijah.

I draw you attention to my replies 5 and 6.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 16:31 GMT (UK) »
NEALE,
Thank you for your continued interest.
I am confused that you suggest that my relation  Christiana SRIJAH is 'non-existent'.
I assure you that I am not reliant upon the trees of others but am following any official resources that I can find such the as her marriage and the Australian Birth Index below.  Yes, of course, these may always include spelling and transcription errors, but I have only just today, found these records so that I will now be able to purchase the formal certificates.  Do you have, at this stage, additional evidence to be so confidently dismissive?

Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
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Name   Alice Rose Rippingille   
Birth   Abt 1858 Brighton, Victoria   
Father   Alexander Rippingille   
Mother   Christiana Srijah

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 16:55 GMT (UK) »
NEALE,
Thank you for your continued interest.
I am confused that you suggest that my relation  Christiana SRIJAH is 'non-existent'.
I assure you that I am not reliant upon the trees of others but am following any official resources that I can find such the as her marriage and the Australian Birth Index below.  Yes, of course, these may always include spelling and transcription errors, but I have only just today, found these records so that I will now be able to purchase the formal certificates.  Do you have, at this stage, additional evidence to be so confidently dismissive?

Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
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Name   Alice Rose Rippingille   
Birth   Abt 1858 Brighton, Victoria   
Father   Alexander Rippingille   
Mother   Christiana Srijah

Yes, it’s definitely important to purchase the birth certificate rather than believe an erroneous transcription. That is where "the evidence" will be found.

I have asked, but you have not provided any information about any “Srijah” marriage.
Of course, no such document exists.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 12 November 25 22:22 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure where the "Christiana" comes from, but I think it's quite possible "BRIJAH" (as on the Victorian BDM search for Alice's birth) is a mistranscription of BRYANT.
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/search-your-family-history

As Neale says, you need to see the actual certificate.

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Re: Edward Alexander ALEX Rippingille abt 1855 • Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 13 November 25 02:58 GMT (UK) »
I think it is likely that Alice Rose was actually born in SALE. Maybe registered Brighton.

The business dissolution in 1860 between DAVEY and RIPPINGILLE was in SALE (which is in Gippsland Victoria)

The creators of the online trees have it as Brighton, Gippsland.  No such place. To my knowledge.
So the records are muddled.  Brighton is a beachside suburb of Melbourne

However, on the 1901 census Alice states born in Gippsland.

Alex. RIPPINGILLE must have thought highly of James DAVEY to name his second son after him.

DAVEY was born in Bristol England and died by drowning in 1871 aged 43.

Sue



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