william wales

[osprey]

 some info on the infirmary here

https://horridhackney.com/f/hackney-poor-law-union-workhouse-hackney-hospital-1841-1930

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Hackney/

[raggyroo]

thank you for the info osprey

[Mabel Bagshawe]

The military/naval record is likely to be him as it notes place of birth as hackney. DOB is 30 Jul 1884 which just about matches the workhouse and school records found earlier

1901 census he's a boy under training on HMS Lion, a training ship in Devonport

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Rose's mother is noted on her workhouse records - Emma Wales, 48 Lamprie (?) St, Old Ford

1891 possibility? 486 Old Ford Road, Stratford Le Bow St Mary

Emma Wales    47    widow b Hoxton
Rose Wales    29    Daughter, single b Kingsland. Domestic servant (cook)
Ellen Wales    13    Daughter b Old Ford
Arthur Wales   6    Son   b Old Ford

[osprey]

1881 no Rose
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27S-RN6Q?lang=en

1871 with Rose
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB6Z-H9X?lang=en

Likely death reg for Charles Wales age 53 march qtr 1889 Poplar vol 1c pg 367

School record dated 26 Aug 1895 Sidney Road School for Arthur Wales born 10 Jan 1885, guardian -
mother, a widow address 28 Powerscroft Rd.
1901 census at same address
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9C7-373?lang=en
implying that Emma has married William Potts but haven't spotted the marriage as yet. Also, Potts was Emma's maiden name
birth reg
Rosa Wales dec qtr 1860 Shoreditch mmn Potts

[Mabel Bagshawe]

It looks very much like she died and was buried as Emma Wales in 1916

[raggyroo]

i cant thank you all enough for all your help i was totaly lost and had no idea where to start with tracking own records

kind regards raggy

[raggyroo]

It looks very much like she died and was buried as Emma Wales in 1916

so you think rose changed her name to her mothers and emma was the name given when she died

[Mabel Bagshawe]

No. I was talking about her mother, who appears to have the surname Potts in 1901 and 1911 as per Osprey's post, but no marriage could be found