william wales

[raggyroo]

hi sorry if im in the wrong place its my first time try to get somewhere with english records.

im trying to trace a william wales and his parents and any siblings he may have had.

if my reserch is correct so far william was in the millitary and married a scottish girl so what i have so far is as follows

think his mother may have been a rose wales but havent found anything on a father as of yet

william wales B 30 july 1884 hackney london
                     M  october 1914 portsmouth  hamshire
                      D 1 june 1935 dundee scotland
dundee is also where his wife is from

i also think i may have found a millitary entery saying he joined nov 1900 but not sure if defently him or not.

any help would be really appreaited as im really unsure of how english records work only done scottish till now

raggyroo

[nanny jan]

His marriage certificate should show the name and occupation of his father. Sometimes a family member (brother, cousin etc) appears as a witness.

Using that information you can look for him on English census records.

[rosie99]

His marriage on familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NXX-4Q6V?lang=en

William Wales
Age   30
Residence Place   Submarine Depot
Occupation -Leading Seaman R N
Father Deceased

Lydia Wales Anderson
Age   22
Abode 43 Newcomers Road
Father Alexandrea Anderson
Father's Occupation   Labourer
Witnesses    Mary Agnes Rink & Arthur Hurrell Forster
Date of marriage 5 Dec 1914
Note   Licence

[osprey]

Red post, will continue as transcription is misleading about father.

Details from parish marriage register
St Marks Portsmouth 5 Dec 1914
William Wales 30 bach Leading Seaman RN Submarine Depot (details for father blank)
Lydia Coutts Anderson 22 spinster 48 Newcomen Rd father Alexander Anderson labourer
witnesses Mary Agnes Rink & Arthur Hurrell Forster

Lack of info on father implies he was illegitimate.

[raggyroo]

thank you

rosie99 thank you for that so much i will go look at the cert

thank you raggyroo

[rosie99]

The birth certificate has been added to the Ancestry website and confirms that his mother is Rose Wales, no mention of a father

[raggyroo]

Thank you osprey i did wonder if that was the case as i just wasnt finding anything concrete other than their marriage only because of the bride.  i wonder how they met and maybe need to see why she was so far from home and living somewhere else at time of marriage as the both came back to dundee scotland and both died their too. think im just that unsure of english records i didnt know where to start other than ancestry but that can be wrong too sometimes

raggyroo

[osprey]

If you have access to Ancestry, take a look at the records for Rose Wales in the London Metropolitan Archives.
There is a reference to William Wales born July 1884, admitted to workhouse Saturday 13 Sept 1884 with mother Rose b. 1863, both admitted from infirmary.
Both admitted from the infirmary again Wed 18 Feb 1885.

Also a school record from Sidney Road School dated 18 July 1892 for William Wales born 29 July 1884 father William living at 40 Cadogan Terrace.
I've checked the 1891 census for that address and no William or Rose there.

[raggyroo]

osprey thank you so so much i do have access to ancestry so i will go look at those records i cant thank you all enough for your help
raggyroo