James Williams m. Elizabeth Bush, Lambeth 1840s - searching for marriage

[Aguella]

Hello

I am trying to find the marriage of James Williams (born around 1819 in Lambeth), coal porter, and Elizabeth Bush (born around 1827 in Lambeth). Their first child was George, born in 1845 in Lambeth. Elizabeth's maiden name comes from the children's birth registrations - it is possible that she married using a different name, although she'd only have been about 18 when George was born, so there's not much scope for a previous marriage.

Any ideas or pointers would be brilliant. I'm starting to doubt they ever married. Based on DNA matches with descendants of this couple, I believe James was likely the brother of my ancestor John Williams, and I'd like to confirm what details are given for James' father on his marriage certificate - hence the great interest in finding it.

Thank you!

[wivenhoe]

"marriage of James Williams (born around 1819 in Lambeth), coal porter, and Elizabeth Bush (born around 1827 in Lambeth). Their first child was George, born in 1845 in Lambeth. "

Are you seeing this family in the 1861 and 1871 Census?

Can you identify the family that you see in the 1861 Census.

Can you identify the family that you see in the 1871 Census.


......names of children....addresses....occupations etc ....for these two Census records.

[Aguella]

Hi

1851
Household schedule number   50
Piece   1571
Folio   108
Page number   11

14 Granby Buildings, Lambeth
Jas, 26, labourer engineer
Eliza, 24
Geo, 5
Jas, 3
Eliza, 1

1861
Household schedule number   188
Piece   352
Folio   146
Page number   36

14 Granby Buildings, Lambeth
James, 40, dock labourer
Eliza, 34
George, 15
James, 13
Eliza, 11
Henry, 9
Charles, 15 months

1871
Household schedule number   150
Piece   661
Folio   68
Page number   30

14 Granby Buildings, Lambeth
James, 52, coal porter
Elizabeth, 45
James, 23, potter
Henry, 20, potter
Charles, 11
Louisa, 8
Thomas, 57, brother, labourer
Elizabeth Thomas, 61, lodger, charwoman

Thank you for your interest!

[softly softly]

I know it’s a pain but could you post some known deatails of your direct line John

Thanks

SS

[rosie99]

I note that her name is Eliza not Elizabeth on the census you have posted.  There is an Eliza Bush in Lambeth in 1841 in the household of Jonathan Warren

[Aguella]

I know it’s a pain but could you post some known deatails of your direct line John

Thanks

SS

Hi

John m. Emma Soundy on 2 Jun 1833 in Westminster.

1841
Piece   1046
Book   4
Folio   36
Page number   10

Boots Row, Sleaford Street, Battersea
John, 25, labourer
Emma, 25
Emma, 5
John, 2
Charles, 5 months
Frances Soundy, 65

1851
Household schedule number   110
Piece   1471
Folio   271
Page number   25

Mullengers Cottage, Sun Street, Fulham
John, 39, brewers servant
Emma, 36
Emma, 14, servant
John, 12
Charles, 9
Levene, 3 [Lavinia]
Louisa, 1

John died 1 Aug 1858 at Battersea and was buried 9 Aug 1858 at St George the Martyr.

[softly softly]

Thanks for johns details. Working on what you have posted we seem to be looking for common parents of
1 John born c 1812  place Battersea
2 James born c1819-25 place Lambeth  according to census
3 Thomas born c1814  place Lambeth

If they are related.

SS