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Re: James Williams m. Elizabeth Bush, Lambeth 1840s - searching for marriage
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 November 25 08:20 GMT (UK) »

Indeed - and there's a sister, too: Sarah Williams born c1811 in Battersea, who married Charles Mayze. Plenty of DNA matches with their descendants.


There's a  Harriet Williams as witness to this marriage - another rellie??
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: James Williams m. Elizabeth Bush, Lambeth 1840s - searching for marriage
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 November 25 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Possible baptism for Sarah Williams on 22 Dec 1810, Saint Mary At Lambeth d/o William and Sarah
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: James Williams m. Elizabeth Bush, Lambeth 1840s - searching for marriage
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 November 25 08:42 GMT (UK) »
Some more that might be related
6th March 1813, baptisms of Thomas and William sons of William and Elizabeth of Mason Street, he is a labourer. It doesn't say they're twins. In most cases where I have seen "batch" baptisms of siblings they are usually listed in age order with oldest first.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: James Williams m. Elizabeth Bush, Lambeth 1840s - searching for marriage
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 November 25 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for johns details. Working on what you have posted we seem to be looking for common parents of
1 John born c 1812  place Battersea
2 James born c1819-25 place Lambeth  according to census
3 Thomas born c1814  place Lambeth

If they are related.

SS

We know Thomas and James are brothers (1871 census)

In 1871 Thomas is unmarried and we think that James would have married about 1843-4, based on age of first child and relatively young age of wife Eliza (which is fairly consistent throughout censuses). Therefore both brothers would be unmarried in 1841 and possibly living with parents.

A family that could match
address in 1841 Wootten street, Lambeth
Thomas Williams 48   (b abt 1793) Cooper's journeyman
Susannah Williams 48   (b abt 1793)   
Thomas Williams 24   (b abt 1817) Comedian?
James Williams 21   (b abt 1820) I think it's bookseller's servant
all born in Surrey

Piece 1060, Book 5, Folio 4 Page 2
Although Thomas and James's occupations differ, people change to whatever makes them a living

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott