Thomas Henry Dranfield, Rebecca Rhodes and Ann Powell

[Bilham]

In my tree I have a Thomas Henry Dranfield (born 1845, Kirkheaton) I believe he married Rebecca Rhodes (born 1849, Kirkheaton) on 13 Jun 1869. It is difficult to be sure as they never appear together on a census but I have the marriage record. What I do know is that Thomas had two children Ebor Dransfield - 1875 and George Dransfield - 1878 (they are with him in the 1881 census living in Dewsbury). My problems are
1 I can find no record of Ebor Dransfield's birth.
2 I do have a record for George Henry Dransfield's birth in Dewsbury to Thomas Dransfield but the mother is shown as Ann Powell. I cannot find any record of a marriage between Thomas Dransfield and Ann Powell.
I also cannot see any death record for either Rebecca Dransfield or Ann Powell yet in the 1881 census Thomas is shown as a widower with the two children and they are staying with his brother and family in Dewsbury.
I have searched and searched but can't solve the conundrum.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Neale1961]

Birth

   DRANSFIELD, EBER              mother - POWELL 
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in DEWSBURY  Volume 09B  Page 703

[Neale1961]

In 1871 Rebecca Dransfield (age 21, married) is living with her mother Nancy Rhodes in Hopton.
Thomas (married) is living with his parents.

What a strange lot, this Dransfield family of yours.


What information is on those birth certificates?    Address?    Who was registering the birth?    Mother's occupation?

[Neale1961]

Baptism 12 Aug 1878 Dewsbury West Town St Matthew
George Henry Dransfield – son of Thomas and Ann, weaver, abode West Town

Didn’t see a baptism for Ebor.


Is this another child, Mary Ann baptised in 19 Dec 1879 – born 18 Dec 1879  (aka Emma?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWSK-454?lang=en

Birth
DRANSFIELD, EMMA       Mother - POWELL 
GRO Reference: 1879  D Quarter in DEWSBURY  Volume 09B  Page 710

Death
DRANSFIELD, EMMA       Age 0 
GRO Reference: 1879  D Quarter in DEWSBURY  Volume 09B  Page 480


Maybe?
Death registration for an Ann Dransfield (age 28) in Dewsbury 1879.
DRANSFIELD, ANN       28 
GRO Reference: 1879  D Quarter in DEWSBURY  Volume 09B  Page 480

[J.R.Ellam]

An Ann Dransfield born 1851 was in the GRO deaths for 1879 in Dewsbury.

A private tree as Rebecca's death as 1878 but cannot find any record of it.
Just noticed Rebecca is the aunt of the great Yorkshire & England all-rounder Wilfred Rhodes.

John

[Neale1961]

A private tree as Rebecca's death as 1878 but cannot find any record of it.

There is a Rebecca Dransfield (age 36) death in 1878 in Ashton Under Lyne.
I’m not convinced. Age is not quite right, and place is a bit odd. (Rebecca was born in 1849).

[J.R.Ellam]

I was just looking at Yorkshire deaths so missed that 1.

It does seem out of place.

[J.R.Ellam]

Thomas Dransfield married Ann Powell 1874, Huddeersfield district.

John

[Bilham]

Lord this is complex. And I do think, the Dransfield's are an "interesting" lot (and have become quite addictive).
I had spotted the Eber Dransfield birth in Dewsbury (although somehow I failed to notice Powell as mother). The very annoying thing is that when I do a GRO index search on those details it tells me there are "No Matching Results Found"; I've tried many different combinations of information and many different settings and have also reported it to GRO. As GRO index refuses to find it, would it be a waste to order a PDF of the certificate?

Rebecca's death in 1878? I really do doubt the evidence here; the death is in Ashton-under-lyne.

Neale 1961 - birth and death of Emma Dransfield to Powell looks like an excellent find and the birth and death in the 4th quarter plus the death of Ann Dransfield in the the same quarter sounds like a terrible birth tragedy. I've just downloaded the birth record and the mother is Ann Powell; father Thomas Dransfield and they are at Beckett Nook, Dewsbury. Father is a "seamer". Not sure what this is. In the past he was down as a weaver.

Then we have the death of Ann Dransfield. If she is Ann Dransfield, where is the death of the first Mrs Dransfield - Rebecca? I can't find her in the 1881 census but I am not convinced about the 1878 death record and where on earth is the marriage of Thomas Dransfield to Ann Powell? And finally, why do some of these records leave off Thomas's middle name!?

More work needed here