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Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« on: Thursday 06 November 25 13:04 GMT (UK) »
I am frustrated by the non-presence of Edwin Charles Griffith Lascelles (b. 1890) in BOTH these censuses! I suspect I'll just have to accept this, but if anyone can help, it is the wizards of RF!

This is particularly annoying for 1911 (census taken 2 April). He was attending the Academy for Dramatic Art (later RADA) in London and appeared in a production on 7 April. This performance counted as an examination, so it seems unlikely he'd have left the country immediately before (he got a merit award for his performance).

In 1921 he's listed as Edwin in the electoral roll for Weston Park, Bath, with his parents. (He much preferred to be known as Charles, which sometimes even appears in official records.) I have no other records of him at all in that year but in 1922 he was back on stage again. However, I can't find him travelling overseas.

Any thoughts, anyone?
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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 November 25 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Try looking at this entry in last census. The transcript could not be more incorrect if it tried with pob and occupation.


Edward Lascelles
10, Myatt Road, Brixton, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 November 25 17:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I think this could be him as Charles in 1911, badly mistranscribed.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLK-YB2?lang=en

LANNELLER at FindMyPast and familysearch, LANNELLES at Ancestry.

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Daisy
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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 November 25 17:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I think this could be him as Charles in 1911, badly mistranscribed.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLK-YB2?lang=en

LANNELLER at FindMyPast and familysearch, LANNELLES at Ancestry.

Regards,
Daisy

I've been looking for him for a while, and that looks very promising. Looking at the handwriting on the original I can see why it was difficult to transcribe.
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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 November 25 08:05 GMT (UK) »
Congratulations Daisy and thanks to all three of you for looking! The boarding house management evidently asked each boarder to fill in their own details, so Charlie wrote his own entry. This is his signature from 1915 in his service record (TNA WO 339/3520). It's obviously the same hand.

Now I just need to find him in 1921!
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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 November 25 12:07 GMT (UK) »
In 1921 my cousin, Edwin Vincent was found under his stage name of Edwin Beverley.  Do you know his stage name?
James -Victoria, Australia originally from Keynsham, Somerset.
Janes - Keynsham and Bristol area.
Heale/Hale - Keynsham, Somerset
Vincent - Illogan/Redruth, Cornwall.  Moved to Sculcoates, Yorkshire; Grass Valley, California; Timaru, New Zealand and Victoria, Australia.
Williams somewhere in Wales - he kept moving
Ellis - Anglesey

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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 November 25 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, he performed as Charles Lascelles -- yes, I've tried that too!
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Re: Am I missing something in the 1911 and 1921 censuses?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 November 25 14:52 GMT (UK) »

I've been looking for him for a while, and that looks very promising. Looking at the handwriting on the original I can see why it was difficult to transcribe.

He's taken up the wrong profession. He should have been a doctor with handwriting like that  ;D
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 November 25 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott