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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 20 November 25 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi David, Thank you. So a distinct possibility. 
Where to next is the next conundrum.

E few hours ago I ended up on Facebook via a link re Frederick.  Not much about him perse but a fantastic serial photo of where he could have been as a child.  Yanga Station up along the Murrumbidgee River NSW Aust. His grand parents  were there early on before 1900. It's absolutely huge.   
On there I also found a link to a Museum and Heritage centre in the Town of Balranald. I have contacted them.  Hope it's successful
  It's like circles in circles this stuff.
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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 26 November 25 05:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,   I have finally received a reply from the Balranald Museum and Heritage Centre. 

Other than explaining about all the already passed information collecting re what I had done, that I could now do  ----Nothing of any value received. 

Best offer was contact Balranald Cemetery.   

Still no further on the quest for Frederick Murray's death after 1927.....   

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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 30 November 25 03:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sparratt, Sue   

I have gone back to the beginning again looking as the side lines and starting at Lila Lilly Murray.  Frederick's Mother. 

She was born 1881  Lila lily Atkinson  and died 1919    about 38 yrs old.    Now there are a number of trees that I have been looking through.  bit off putting  in parts and often hard to follow.  most have conflicting information regarding Frederick.   

Lila's Father was John Atkinson and her Mother was Harriet Harviston Brown (1862-1936)  John's second wife. 

John's first wife was Louisa Frost 1855 -1914   They had 12 children
John's third wife was Lucy Bros-Dick . born 17th April 1897  Echuca, Murray Yorta Yorta Nation,Victoria.

Last wife was   Bessie Murray  there are no details about her but I did see a photo. 

This I found 24 hrs ago and I am so stressed I feel ill.  So have not yet confirmed all of this with records.   

Oddly most of their  records are other's trees. Oherwise not much to verify what they say. 

When it comes to Frederick there's the problem with 1903 and 1905 children. 
More work yet.  but this Atkinson line is interesting.

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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 30 November 25 05:09 GMT (UK) »
Obviously you would need to purchase the certificates to find out if these marriages are all the same man:

1873  Aaron ATKINSON and Louisa FROST  (Moama, NSW) 3032/1873
1879  John ATKINSON and Harriet BROWN  (Victoria)  4725 / 1879
1879  Aaron ATKINSON and Lucy Brosy DICK (Victoria)  3187 / 1897


There are births registered at Moama with father Aaron ATKINSON and mother Louisa:
1888  Edwin
1891  Daisy C
1893  Lily

and with mother Lucy:
1898  James A
1899  Thomas

Aaron ATKINSON death at Moama in 1913 (12766/1913) mother - Kitty.


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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 30 November 25 05:30 GMT (UK) »
you may also be interested in browsing this.
You will need to be tolerant of the descriptive language used.

  .
Erratic head counting over years in 1870’s to 1884 of indigenous people residing at Maloga Station

https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-2863516350/view?sectionId=nla.obj-2865876749&searchTerm=%22harriet+h+atkinson++%22~5&partId=nla.obj-2863532372#page/n28/mode/1up

ATKINSON.....
I believe you will see Lila aged 4 in 1881
Johnny aged 29 in 1877
Harriet aged 22 in 1876.

Whether they are the right people I don't know.
Many ATKINSONS residing there.

Sue


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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 30 November 25 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maddys52 and Sparratt,

you are both amazing !!! Thank you so very much for what you have sent through so quickly.

maaddys52 i shall enevour to get those  certs asap. They are really needed. 

It is very hot and humid here so I have hid away where it's been cooler under a fan.  Night time is better to do this searching. 

Sue the Trove document is absolutely fabulous.  I do believe many of the Atkinson family are in those listings.  I have had a quick search.   I was under the impression that Lila was full blood but apparently not.  The man she married was so.    I will read the whole report once I get a print copy. 

It is so good to learn about these individuals and their lives.    I have another Mission document that is not related to this search an it's incredible.

I'll be quiet for a while working on these .. back when i have news. 

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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:26 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure you will note in your browsing of the old document of head counts on the station that Aaron ATKINSON also present.
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Re: What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia
« Reply #35 on: Monday 01 December 25 06:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sparratt
Sue , Yes I did see that.  interesting.. would you believe we have an Aaron.

I have been looking again everywhere..  and I saw a death for Francis Frederick   Da da.....   also connected to Diana Margaret Arden in Secombe tree.  Can't see any connection further but date was 1939, Balranald. 
again no source so just More hot air or wishful thinking or copying   !!!  And not on NSW BDM search.

It has occurred to me that he may have just wandered off for some unknown reason.    I am going to see if Diana Margaret A left him for Harrison or just what . Obviously Harrison replaced him as the daughter married as Harrison .

Still working on the Atkinson lines too.

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