What happened to Frederick Murray born 1903 Moama NSW, Australia

[Essnell]

For Neale,   Thankyou for the helpful info on getting a cert.  I tried it out and actually reached the cart.  Full stop, the cost was $41. I reneged on that.  will see if s-i-l wants to get it later himself.
Since then I have progress well as on the thread.  Almost at the end of the trail and mystery person found. 
Essnell.

[maddys52]

If you use a transcription agent (see my reply #1), you can get a transcription for around $20.

[Essnell]

Hi Maddys52, Thankyou.  Yes I didn't see that option or at least how to access it. 
I shall try again later....my internet on computes is acting up this morning and also last night. The Telstra one has gone AWOL and Starlink is slow.  Frustrating. 
Any how I will need this cert .  I am about to try tracking his wife and daughter. I have seen the daughters husband 's name elsewhere. 
I am so close to an answer.   
Essnell

[sparrett]

Deleted. Wrong information.

[sparrett]

Barbara Lyell MURRRAY b. 1927 married Wesley Bertram HABY,

There is a photo of him in connection with his WW2 service enlistment at the National Archives Australia site.
Sue

[Essnell]

Hi Sue,  Thankyou for the photo. I have not got this far  yet. 
I am endeavouring to sort all the notes into orderly groupings. This last little bit has snowballed with info so all on A4 pages and loose.   
My S-i-l gets back from Adelaide today, after visiting an Aunt who is 104 yrs old and broken her hip,/leg. It's so bad that they cann repair it around the previous replacement. 

 He will be very surprised by what i'found for him. 
Cheers  Essnell

[Essnell]

Hi maaddys52,
Finally found where to access the Transcription Service  for the those records. I shall see what we need to do.   

I am almost certain that this Frederick Murray is my Mystery man. 
There three people in a small cluster from s-i-l's DNA who trace back to William Walter and Lila Llily Murray. 
These 3 people follow back to another son of William Walter and Lila Lily Murray - Sidney John Murray.
I have a little more work to do on tis yet so will keep you posted. 

Essnell

[sparrett]

Hi.
I see from you other thread you are still working diligently on the  DNA aspect of your search

Records show  the birth of Dinah Margaret ARDEN in 1907 (#14899.)
Her father was indigenous man  James Thomas Winter ARDEN.
Her mother Christine Rachel nee LANCASTER.

Dinah Margaret ARDEN married Fred MURRAY,  the subject of your post heading in 1926.(#3807)

Their daughter was Barbara Lyell MURRAY b 1927
BUT.... for reasons I don't know, she used the surname HARRISON at her marriage. Is this correct?

Barbara married Wesley Bertram HABY b. 1926.  Photo posted above.
Have you DNA support/verification to this point?

One of the daughters of Wes and Barbara was Diana April HABY who died in 2022.
She can be seen on the Victorian Electoral Roll surnamed SMITH

Do I have this right?
Is the above information in line with your findings?

Sue

[Essnell]

Hi Sue, Thanks again, this is all so helpful. 

Yes I am still digging through DNA connections.  Ian pretty sure that Frederick Murray is my mystery man.
There are so many links from other parts of his extended family that point to this.
 Now what I believe is that Frederick when 19 yrs old got with a 17 yr old called Mabel I know she had a c
Son in Footscray in 1922 and called him Frank last name Smith.

Frederick Murray apparently left her.  She passed the child over to her elder brother and he and his wife reared him. 

Little Frank is my S-i-l' Dad. He is deceased. Now the Arden connection come in through the name Haby it's one of the Matches but I can't remember where.
If I find that I will have a connection straight through. That would be good.  I do have a connection to three others who are cousins.  I am currently trying to get paper trails on this.

I am on the mobile so hope it is all okay. I will Pm you in the morning.   
Essnell.