Hannah Charles

[osprey]

It would be interesting to see if she gave the same details for her father on the marriage to Thomas Watkins.

Have you tried following up on the niece, Eliza Hiles, from the 1851 census?

Did Hannah have any other children who she could be living with in later census years?

[teragram31510]

"I am still puzzled by the Somerset birthplace name given in the 1851 census."

Could you send a snip with the Somerset place name on it? I can't seem to access Ancestry at the minute/see an image of the original.

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Here it is.

In reply 5 I gave a link to some old 1820 & 1821 maps of Somerset in case she gave a place name rather than a parish name, but of course she was born 20 years before these so it could be a name of somewhere already gone.

Daisy

[LizzieL]

Looks like the place begins with an "H" but it may not. It could be a case of someone sticking an H on the front of a name beginning with a vowel, because that is how people pronounced it.

(Spent many hours searching for my Eltham and Annetts ancestors, only to find them recorded as Heltham and Hannetts)

[Raybistre]

There is a place in Northamptonshire, 2 miles east of Banbury, Oxfordshire, called Overthorpe. Makes you wonder if the county was mis-transcribed.
Ray

[LizzieL]

There is a place in Northamptonshire, 2 miles east of Banbury, Oxfordshire, called Overthorpe. Makes you wonder if the county was mis-transcribed.
Ray

Yes it does look like Hoverthorpe.

[teragram31510]

Have spent some time studying the maps in the reference, though I come from Somerset.
I'd say there is no doubt about the clarity of 'Somersetshire' on the clip.
The only possibility I can see for the town/village/farm name as the POB would be Evercreech spelt as Heverchre(c)he.

[LizzieL]

Haven't spotted the couple after this, although there is a widowed Hannah Richards in Swansea in 1871 who was born in Woodstock, Oxfordshire. But also a possible death reg june qtr 1869 age 79.

There are two Hannah Richard(s) of similar age living in Swansea. There is our Hannah (a thrice married lady) and Hannah (a spinster born in Wales) and living with her married sister (Rachel Tiley formally Jones nee Richards) in 1851 and 1861 (at Goat Street Swansea). I can't find either of the sisters in 1871, so this may be the Hannah buried in 1869. Haven't found her burial yet, but is not in Swansea St Mary's PR

The Hannah b Woodstock may be the one buried on 11 Dec 1871 at Swansea St Marys. She was a boarder and annuitant at Wassail Place Swansea, which I think was in St Mary's parish.

[Raybistre]

Definitely says Somersetshire in the enumerator's book but these were transcripts of the returns were they not?
Ray