Author Topic: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire  (Read 244 times)

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 13:38 GMT (UK) »
There’s an admission entry for Flora Tobin in Marylebone 1862 age 23.

Think it refers to workhouse infirmary as the end column says cured.

What was her residence on the marriage?  This entry has 11 Dorset Buildings
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 13:50 GMT (UK) »
At marriage both John Tobin & Flora Swift gave their address as just 'St Marylebone' but the address on Flora Annie's birth certificate a few months later was 11 Dorset Buildings, the same as the Infirmary entry you mention. 

The informant for Flora Annie's birth was Isabella Ann Richardson, Occupier, 11 Dorset Buildings
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 16:08 GMT (UK) »
On the marriage John says his father is Phillip.

There is this family in 1861 but John only 10 so he can't be the groom.

Phillip Tobin 50 born Ireland - sugar boiler
Mary wife 45 born Ireland
Catherine dau 18 born Denmark St Middlesex - servant
John son 10 born Denmark St Middlesex - scholar

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 17:02 GMT (UK) »
28 Oct 1877 Marylebone Workhouse, Caroline d/o Flora TOBIN formerly Swift, Upholstress. Informant: Flora Tobin of 16 Richmond Street, Maida Hill

Briefest of settlement notes here
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_A106555-00184

Workhouse creed register
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31436_190456-00073


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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 17:07 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 00:24 GMT (UK) »
A big thank you for those jonwarnn - I'd managed to find the creed registers but had given up on finding any form of settlement examination, so that's a brilliant find  8)

Next question is what does it say?  I've got as far as:

8 Nov 1877
Flora Tobin, 32, W
4, 2 + 14 days

I lived with Mr Wright(?) as his wife at Charlotte Place, Paddington [???] for about 6 years and only left him about 5 months ago.

Paddington                              Order Made
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to those brief settlement notes I've been able to find Flora's Removal Order to Paddington. 

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2651/images/31952_a014583-00396?usePUB=true&_phsrc=MKO828

Unfortunately there's no further information about her origins but it does confirm that the father of her children is George Wright of 10 Charlotte Place, Paddington. 

I'd suspected it was him from the 1871 newspapers where he initially proclaimed that he would not be responsible for his wife's debts and then shortly afterwards advertised two rooms for rent.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Well done with the handwriting, and finding that removal order!

So I guess Georgina was named after Mr Wright? I don't see a birth reg though, and didn't find Flora/Fanny as Wright in 1871 (if she was by then)
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Re: Missing: Fanny/Frances Swift b1840 Thorpe Arnold, Leicestershire
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 06 November 25 21:36 GMT (UK) »
I've just found Flora Annie's baptism

England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms

St Francis of Assisi, Notting Hill, North Kensington
Flora Anna Tobin born 16 Oct 1862
Bap. 16 Jan 1865

Father John Alexander Tobin
Mother Flora Surft
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