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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:52 GMT (UK) »
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The only marriage that stated a father was deceased was that of Alfred Mansfield Mitchell in Wiltshire in 1884, where it has the bride's father deceased. If Robert was deceased the Alfred would surely have known.
Possibly not. It may be that Alfred was never asked if his father was dead or alive (remember that the marriage likely took place in the bride's church and the clergyman would not have known Alfred's family). IF Robert 'disappeared' when the children were young (and we certainly haven't found any trace of him in Ireland) they might not have been told much.
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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Following on from Aghadowey . . .

As this appears to be a well to do family with many newspaper references I am surprised that Robert's death isn't featured . . .

Have you looked into the possibility that Robert may have fallen onto hard times, for whatever reason, and possibly left the family and no one knew what became of him ?

Of course this would lead to you throwing your net VERY wide, possibly across the pond too . . .

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #47 on: Monday 10 November 25 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Alfred was already a Reverend when he married Janet Elizabeth Louisa Hammond in Stratford-sub-Castle, Salisbury, Wilts, in 1887. Their marriage was only announced by the Belfast News-Letter. It does mention Janet's deceased father William Hammond, but nothing about Robert.

But why Belfast? Was his mother (with or without Robert) also living there, maybe with her daughter and son-in-law Hugh Maguire? And why marry in Wiltshire? Janet's family was from London and Alfred had just been appointed to the curacy of St Phillip, Clerkenwell.

There is a Robert Mitchell, pensioner, living at Peveril Street, Belfast, in 1880.

https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/opqcomplete1880.htm

Robert's death is still a mystery. No records in Ireland, England and Wales, and only this one possible record in Scotland (I know it's a long shot).

MITCHELL  ROBERT  72  MITCHELL  M  1891   282 / 3 / 273   St Clement

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #48 on: Monday 10 November 25 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Alfred Mitchell and Hugh Maguire living at the same street in Belfast in 1877.


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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #49 on: Monday 10 November 25 02:11 GMT (UK) »
In 1880 Hugh Maguire (of Maguire & Edwards) is at Wandsworth Villas, Belmont Park and Mrs. Mitchell is at 2 Connaught Terrace.

https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1880m.htm

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #50 on: Monday 10 November 25 02:18 GMT (UK) »
An Alfred John Edwards was the other witness at Hugh's marriage to Sarah Mitchell. Wonder if he was the business partner.

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #51 on: Monday 10 November 25 02:37 GMT (UK) »
1901

The Laurels
       Edwards, Alfred (of Maguire & Edwards Ltd.)
     
Wandsworth
       Maguire, Mrs.

https://lennonwylie.co.uk/bcomplete1901_1.htm

1907

The Laurels 221. Edwards, A. (of Maguire & Edwards Ltd.)

Wandsworth 229. Maguire, Mrs.

https://lennonwylie.co.uk/bcomplete1907_2.htm

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #52 on: Monday 10 November 25 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Peveril Street doesn't exist any more but it seems that it is currently Ormeau Road and the place where Robert Mitchell, pensioner, lived, between Lavinia and Abbott Streets (currently near McClure Street) is less than a mile from Connaught Terrace off University Street where Alfred (1877) and Mrs. Mitchell (1880) lived and it was also near the address given by Sarah Ann in her marriage certificate, 36 University Street, in 1870. I think that Alfred and Mrs. Mitchell are the right ones, not sure about Robert though, unless they had more than one property or they were separated.

Edited: I have just checked all the 1868 directory and there is no number 36 at University Street, but there was a Robert Mitchell, clerk, living at 37 Grosvernor Street.

In 1890 Mrs. Mitchell was at 1 Ivanhoe Street (Peverill Street to Abbott Street) and in 1894 at 5 Ivanhoe Street (Peveril Street to Abbott Street).

I know Elizabeth and her daughter Louisa Harriette in the 1891 census were in London at the household of her nephew Alfred Joseph Clarkson, but maybe they were just visiting?

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #53 on: Monday 10 November 25 09:41 GMT (UK) »
I know Elizabeth and her daughter Louisa Harriette in the 1891 census were in London at the household of her nephew Alfred Joseph Clarkson, but maybe they were just visiting?

It was actually Matilda Clarkson who was the niece and Caroline M Mansfield was Elizabeth's sister.

Elizabeth and daughter Louisa were also in London in 1901, 24 St Stephens Rd in Paddington, looks to be a boarding house. One of Elizabeth's grandsons William R Maguire was also living there.

Elizabeth died at that address on 15 Dec 1901. She was widow of Robert Mitchell. Daughter Louisa the informant. Buried at West Norwood on 18 Dec, her son Alfred the officiating minister.

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