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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 09 November 25 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Yes it looks as though it must have been in that area, I haven't found anything else about William there though.

Throw in the Dublin City heads of households from the 1851 census returns!
Sarah Mitchell at 10 Grafton Street
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994N-TWTZ

Not sure how far geographically this index extends, but there doesn't seem to be a suitable entry for Robert Mitchell?

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 09 November 25 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks jonwarm, I had seen that 1851 entry. William Mansfield is at 90 Grafton. He was Sarah's brother.
Jane Elizabeth Mitchell married William Mansfield
George Patrick Mitchell married Sarah Mansfield
Robert Mitchell married Elizabeth Mansfield

The Mitchells were all siblings and the Mansfields were as well.

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 09 November 25 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks jonwarm   :)

Dublin almanac and general register of Ireland 1840

"Mitchell Wm. & Son, confectioners to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant, 10 Grafton street, and Grafton house, Fairview, Clontarf"

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000053089823&seq=505&q1=mitchell&start=1

ARTISTS’ WAREHOUSE, 2. GRAFTON-STREET, corner of Nassau-street. XT’ KATES and SON solicit, most respectfully, ..

... to No. and the 3d the Plates. tickets one shieling each, at Mr. Mitchell’s, Confectioner, 10, Grafton-street, and Grafton House, Fairview Avenue, Northstrand • Mr. Dignam, Silk Manufacturer, 100, Brilain-street; Mr. Reigb, Ballybough-bridge, North-strand ...

Published: Wednesday 30 December 1835
Newspaper: Saunders's News-Letter
County: Dublin, Republic of Ireland
Type: Article | Words: 497 | Page: 3

It seems their first commercial address was 36 Nassau Street (interestingly there was a George Mansfield, bookseller, at 35 Nassau Street in 1828, any connection to the Mansfields?)

Their second commercial address was 10 Grafton Street and their residence was Grafton House, Fairview, Clontarf.

I think Robert was living at his father's house until his marriage in 1844 (when all the properties were in his brother's -George Patrick- name as per their father's will).

Apparently they all lived in the same household, given that Robert's first child (Sarah Ann) was born at Windy Arbour in 1846, and after George's death in 1847 this property was in the name of Mrs. Mitchell, George's widow Sarah. (Did George sell the Fairview country house, contrary to his father's codicil?)

Some newspaper ads show that George's brother (Robert) was working with George at 10 Grafton Street before George's death, as they refer to Messrs. Mitchell, confectioners, and about one year before George's death they refer to Mrs. Mitchell, confectioner (let's remember that both George and his father William died after suffering from a 'lingering' illness, any connection to the genetic disorder hydrocephalus that claimed the lives of 5 male infants?).

By that time, 1847, Robert Mitchell is at 168 Rathmines Road, Haroldscross East, and 29 Rathmines Road, Haroldscross East, in 1850 (Did he inherit anything after George's death?)

In 1851-52, Robert Mitchell, confectioner, is at number 68 Rathmines Road (Fortescue Terrace), when his youngest son (as far as we know), Alfred Mansfield Mitchell was born.

What happens to the family until his first daughter Sarah Ann married Hugh Maguire in 1870 at Belfast?  (and as aghadowey has pointed out at https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894764.msg7692806#msg7692806 Robert's occupation is not given)

Edited: I have just noticed that one of the witnesses of this marriage is Elizabeth Mary Mitchell. Is this her mother??

It's a long period of time without any (known) references in the newspapers.



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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 09 November 25 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pat.
Great research.
I can see some later references to Grafton House, Fairview. But with no Mitchells.

As you say, after the early 1850's we seem to lose sight of Robert and his family as well until the children's marriages in various different places.
I have chased up a few possible leads here and there, but they haven't led to the right family.
It seems likely that Robert left Dublin altogether? I would have thought if he had died there, say before 1870, there would have been some kind of announcement in the newspapers, and he might have been buried at Mount Jerome.


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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 09 November 25 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Another piece of the puzzle!

Remember that an Elizabeth Mary Mitchell was witness at the marriage of Sarah Anne Mitchell to Hugh Maguire in Belfast in 1870? Well, I just found her!

Elizabeth Mary Mitchell married James Lawrence, commercial traveller, in Belfast on 21 Sept.1883 at Magdalene Church (COI). Her residence given as Connaught Terrace Lawrence St. and father as Robert Mitchell gentleman. One of the witnesses was Louisa Harriet Mitchell.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10938/5997365.pdf

Belfast Weekly News, 15 Sept.1883: LAWRENCE-MITCHELL- September 5, at the Magdalene Church, Donegall Pass, Belfast, by the Rev. Walter Riddall, M.A., James Lawrence, to Elizabeth Mary Mitchell, both of Belfast.

Sadly she died 31 Aug.1884 at 60 South Parade, Belfast (James' address on marriage previous year) age 35 (so born c1849 if age is accurate) of metritis.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06317/4811764.pdf
Had to look that one up and here's what AI says: Metritis (severe uterine infection) is caused by a bacterial infection that typically ascends from the lower genital tract. While usually treatable with antibiotics, it can cause death in humans if the infection is not diagnosed and treated promptly, leading to life-threatening complications like sepsis, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
Buried Belfast City Cemetery- no one else in plot:
https://online.belfastcity.gov.uk/find-burial-records/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=4336.4801
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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Great find aghadowey! This marriage reinforces that Robert was still alive in 1883, and apparently the former cook and confectioner became a government agent and a gentleman  ;D

Her husband and William Carey Morgan were mentioned in her will proved in Wiltshire in 1904.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPL4-49JF?lang=en

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Great find aghadowey! This marriage reinforces that Robert was still alive in 1883, and apparently the former cook and confectioner became a government agent and a gentleman  ;D

This new information gives absolutely no indication as to whether Robert Mitchell was dead or alive in 1883  :(
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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Great find aghadowey! This marriage reinforces that Robert was still alive in 1883, and apparently the former cook and confectioner became a government agent and a gentleman  ;D

This new information gives absolutely no indication as to whether Robert Mitchell was dead or alive in 1883  :(

Fair enough, but it doesn't say he was deceased, so there is hope.  :)

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Re: Death of Robert MITCHELL
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 09 November 25 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Great find aghadowey! This marriage reinforces that Robert was still alive in 1883, and apparently the former cook and confectioner became a government agent and a gentleman  ;D

This new information gives absolutely no indication as to whether Robert Mitchell was dead or alive in 1883  :(

Fair enough, but it doesn't say he was deceased, so there is hope.  :)

The only marriage that stated a father was deceased was that of Alfred Mansfield Mitchell in Wiltshire in 1884, where it has the bride's father deceased. If Robert was deceased the Alfred would surely have known.

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