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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 14:26 GMT (UK) »
See link to 1855 births. A unique year.
https://www.scottishindexes.com/learningcivil.aspx#q2

Ah, I jumped the gun a bit!

OK, so this doesn't necessarily help. In the  birth entry for the 1855 unnamed child (Isabella) Alexander and Margaret's wedding place/ date is given as Falkirk 1842, which was Roderick and Margaret's wedding.

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Very grateful for all the help being dished out here btw, all greatly appreciated

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm.

It almost sounds as if Roderick and Alexander are one and the same.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm.

It almost sounds as if Roderick and Alexander are one and the same.

In the 1851 census i think the 2 oldest sons who later on are listed as born in the USA (or canada) were both listed as born in Stirlingshire. I did think that maybe something had happened in America and maybe a few details were changed so as to keep a low profile back home. There are references in some certificates to Margaret being a widow of (Rod) MacKenzie though and both the older boys marriage certs etc list Roderick and not Alexander as the father.

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 22:06 GMT (UK) »

It almost sounds as if Roderick and Alexander are one and the same.

All very curious...........


Some questions –
1842 marriage record. Is there any information about Roderick McKenzie? His residence? His occupation?

1855 birth record. What are ALL the details given about Alexander McKenzie? Age, occupation, place of birth, etc.
Who was the informant for this record?


Do you have any birth records for the other children? What information about the father?

Do you have Alexander McKenzie’s death certificate? Please supply information.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 November 25 22:11 GMT (UK) »
2 newspaper snips from obits for the son Roderick (died 1915 in Dingwall), which give some info about his father.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Dochcarty barely qualifies as  a 'district'. It's a handful of farms and crofts just north-west of Dingwall.

See https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5261
and https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5360

From the point of view of tracing him/them, Dochcarty is in the parish of Dingwall, county of Ross and Cromarty.
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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 15:43 GMT (UK) »

Some questions –
1842 marriage record. Is there any information about Roderick McKenzie? His residence? His occupation?

Not much I'm afraid!

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Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 05 November 25 15:52 GMT (UK) »

1855 birth record. What are ALL the details given about Alexander McKenzie? Age, occupation, place of birth, etc.
Who was the informant for this record?

33, blacksmith, ross-shire. Informant was Margaret, his wife