Mary Lewis Wife of Thomas Minshull

[NorthernGeezer]

I have a 3 x great grandfather, Thomas Minshall, born 1822 in Whixhall, Shropshire, married Mary Lewis in 1844 and according to the 1851 census, it gives her birth around 1817 in Ruthin Denbighshire............so far so good.
The marriage certificate names her father as Thomas Lewis, a labourer, who you would assume was born in Denbighshire also.......and here's where I'm stuck.
Both Ancestry and FindMyPast keep throwing up loads of hints of a Thomas Lewis born in Dawley Magna Shropshire, and 1 hint for a guy in Llanbedr-dyffryn-clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales on Marys baptism record.
So, Shropshire or Wales??.................any suggestions greatly appreciated.

[softly softly]

A possible.

Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd is a small village and community in Denbighshire in Wales, approximately 2 miles north-east of the town of Ruthin on the main A494 road towards Chester. There are several places called Llanbedr in Wales, as the word literally translates to 'church of St. Peter' in English.

1851 census born Ruthin c1817 Ruthin
1861 census born c1817 Rything
1871 census born c1818 Chirk
1881 census born c1817 NK

Name   Mary Lewis
Gender   Female
Baptism Date   02 Aug 1818
Baptism Place   Llanbedr-Dyffryn-Clwyd,Denbigh,Wales
Father   
Thomas Lewis
Mother   
Mary

Image of baptism available on FindMyPast

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[NorthernGeezer]

I'm pretty sure that's the one too Softly, my next problem is the parents Thomas and Mary so again, I'm pretty sure the Thomas Lewis from Dawley Magna is NOT her father.
Her marriage to Thomas Minshall is confusing though, how has she got from the backwaters of Wales, Ruthin, to the backwaters of Shropshire, St Martins............its 25 miles away.

[wilcoxon]

The 1818 Llanbedr baptism has Thomas Lewis at Croes Isa, he  is a groom.
On the map I'm sure it's Groes Isaf under the E in Llanbedr.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341183

My Gt Gt  Grandmother was born in Scotland c 1870 but her father was a groom born in Flintshire. The family moved to different parts of the country and he was still in the same type of work in all of them .They ended up in Cheshire. 
Maybe Thomas did the same,  but it's quite a few years between the baptism and marriage of Mary.

[NorthernGeezer]

Your right Wilcoxon, you cant assume that either parent was from that village, especially if the father was in a transient occupation.
On Marys marriage certificate in 1844, his occupation is listed as a labourer but in either case, it doesnt help in moving the tree backwards.

[osprey]

there's a baptism same parish 17 Nov 1816 for John Lewis son of Thomas & Mary Lewis, Thomas is noted as 'Huntsman to Price Jones Esq.'
Agree that Thomas may have moved with the family he worked for.

[NorthernGeezer]

Nice find osprey, confirms he was in the area for at least 2 years then as a huntsman/groom.
If I've got him on daughter Marys marriage certificate in 1844 as a labourer, that's a big change in occupation so is it the right family??.................although I'm happy that the Mary Lewis who married Thomas Minshall is the correct one.

[wilcoxon]

The 1816 baptism was in Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, a different parish, the opposite side of Ruthin,  but not too far. No help really 🙁

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/LlanfairDC

[osprey]

Sorry, it came up when I was searching with Llanbedr & I didn't notice the different parish.

Having looked for Mary in later census years and found that her husband was a boatman, I don't think you need to worry about her moving, suspect it was Thomas going along the Llangollen Canal.

https://waterways.org.uk/waterways/discover-the-waterways/llangollen-canal