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Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« on: Thursday 30 October 25 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Please could someone help with the attached brief entry and my transcription attempt ?

The numbers are for £, shillings and pence.

Also, is the second valuation a 'ditto' of the £200 above or something different ?

Oweing at the East India         200 l [sic]  00      00

Books in the hands of Printers & book
sellers not yett not yett xxxx the xxxx of
xxxxxxed xx xx xoxxx         ['ditto' sign ?]  00      00

As always, thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 October 25 13:38 GMT (UK) »
I think the bottom line might possibly read ‘estimated to be worth’.
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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 October 25 13:39 GMT (UK) »
...sellers nott yett nott yett rec(eive)d to the val(ue) of

estimated to be worth
    [in different hand]

PS:  Just saw JenB's post.

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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 October 25 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi JenB and horselydown86,

Thank you both for your swift and helpful answers; greatly appreciated.

Would either of you have any thoughts on my question about the 'ditto' query ?

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.


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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 October 25 16:07 GMT (UK) »
There is no 'ditto' there. The value of the books is £200, written as CCli.

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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 October 25 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Bookbox,

TVM for that. That's the first time I think I have seen Arabic and Roman numerals used together.

Whilst I am back online, I have two more requests - both on just a handful of words if anyone can help.

One seems to be the word 'fork' but it seems inappropriate in the context:

"It[em] the picture of the deceased and severall
other old pictures & an old Fork [?]".

The other is the last word in line four and pretty much all of the last line:

It[em] 2: paires of flaxen sheetes; six
paire of caurse Canvas sheetes-
2: dozen of lockram napkins; six
lockram towells, one dozen & nyne [?]
caurse towells; 3 paire of pillow
Bixxes, being all the deceased xx xxxx

As always, thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions.

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 October 25 00:02 GMT (UK) »
... an old Jack.
I suspect there are a few possible meanings for Jack, but with no real context here, it's hard to identify.

... one dozen & Nyne (capital N)

... Beeres ... all the deceased(es) lynnen
(= pillow cases)

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Re: Help requested - 1666 Inventory - brief text.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 October 25 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Bookbox,

A big 'thank you'.

That was a lot of linen !

I'll now start exploring whatever a 'Jack' might have been.

The Inventory was for a writer so that might help me focus on definitions.

Thank you, once again.

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 October 25 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Well, there's more definitions for 'jack' than I imagined.

Credit to:

https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=jack

I think the 1378 "short, padded, quilted jacket or tunic" is the most likely. The others are quite interesting but thankfully post-1666.

ATB

Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.