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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #18 on: Friday 31 October 25 10:48 GMT (UK) »
I am having trouble pinning down the father of Robert Clark 1812 above. A general search obviously is bringing up different suggestion which is confusing me even more. How do I pin down the actual father of my Robert Clark?

From what has been discovered would you say the Anchor Mills connection is out of the question now?

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #19 on: Friday 31 October 25 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Col. I had already done so.

The records of the Anchor Mills are in the University of Glasgow Archives.
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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #20 on: Friday 31 October 25 11:16 GMT (UK) »
The irony of this post is that I was in the factory on one occasion in the late 1980s, by then it was owned by Coats Viyella.

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 31 October 25 11:46 GMT (UK) »
I am having trouble pinning down the father of Robert Clark 1812 above. A general search obviously is bringing up different suggestion which is confusing me even more. How do I pin down the actual father of my Robert Clark?
That depends on where he died.

They were in Leith by 1854, when their daughter Betsey was born, and Robert was alive in 1861. Ten years later, Ann was a widow. The question is whether he died before or after her move to England. If he died in Scotland before they left, his death certificate will confirm the name of his wife and should tell you the names of his parents, including his mother's maiden surname.

There's only one recorded baptism of a Robert Cl*rk* in Crathie and Braemar, son of James Clark and Janet Morice, baptised 1 December 1810, which is close to Robert's age in the 1851 and 1861 censuses. But that does not mean he has to be the one, because the records are incomplete and there could be another Robert Cl*rk* whose baptism record has not survived.

There are three deaths of Robert Cl*rk*s of suitable age in Edinburgh between 1861 and 1871, none with mother's surname Morice, and two in Glasgow with no mother's maiden surname indexed.

If, however, he died in England, his death certificate won't even tell you the name of his father. I'm not even sure that it will include the name of his wife.

It's also not beyond the bounds of belief that his wife left him, moved to London, and claimed to be a widow, though it's not very likely.

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From what has been discovered would you say the Anchor Mills connection is out of the question now?
I wouldn't rule it out but even if it does exist it's going to be very difficult to prove because any connection must be before 1800. You'd need to take a much closer look at the Paisley Cl*rk*s to see if there is any connection to Aberdeenshire.
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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 31 October 25 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Forfarian you have helped more than I could have hoped.

I think not being able to place people geographically in Scotland (I was in Edinburgh when I was a year old for a while) it is difficult to visualise in my head clearly where people lived.

I have also been checking shipping records for the possible accident that befell James. No luck so far.

I'll crack on.

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 01 November 25 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Regarding the Robert Clark b1810 above.

From my limited access to records:

b1810
d1902  Echuca, Victoria, Australia.

Father James Clark 1789-?
Mother Janet Morice 1786-?

Wife Ann Philip 1820-1892

Children William 1851-1925  Arbroath
             James 1844   St. Vigeans

This would mean Robert born 1810 and not 1812. And that he died in Australia 1902.
And his son James died on route to Corfu 1894/5

This wouldn't change things but would mean my Robert searches would include 1810-1812
Which may bring about Roberts father. But so far no luck. (could be the James 1789 above?)

An added point - If Ann was in fact a widow about 1871, then the Robert above is not correct. Or as suggested, they may have split and Ann claimed to be a widow?

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 01 November 25 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

    Just wondering Clarks of Deeside, is this crossing with this post?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894479.msg7688636#msg7688636
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 01 November 25 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,  I can't see any obvious cross over points with the posts. Australia and The United States seem to have been popular destinations for many Clark descendents. Thanks

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 01 November 25 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Robert Clark, born Crathie and Braemar, on Deeside
Or am I getting confused and Robert is not relevant to your search?
There are not that many Clark families in the area at that time.
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside