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Anchor Mills Clark family.
« on: Thursday 30 October 25 09:37 GMT (UK) »
On tracing my family I discovered a male Clark line starting with my granma Susanna Clark's (1910) father William Richard Clark b1875 in Liverpool. The male line continues - James Christopher b1844 possibly in Arbroath - Alexander b1805 possibly in Edinburgh - James who I have no birthdate for but possibly married to Elizabeth Miln/e.
My questioning was instigated by my mother telling me that she was related to a Clark family that was well known in the Milling industry. My research now leads me to the possibility that mum might have been refering to the Anchor Mills in Scotland.
I can't find any reference to the above names in the Clark family history and was wondering if possibly the connection is through cousins e.t.c. Or of course it is just a family myth.
Any help on moving forward would be most gratefully received.

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 October 25 10:35 GMT (UK) »
William Richard Clark b Sept Qtr 1875 Liverpool - mmn was Welsh

There is a William Clark/Agnes Welsh marriage 1874 Liverpool
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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 October 25 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks you Carole. I did go down that route for a while until I discovered Williams grave where he was buried with his wife, Annie Clark (Cook) b1877. His birth was stated as 1876 on the gravestone. But I have seen him refered to as b1875. Sorry to waste your time I should just stick to 1876 and I have modified the question.

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 October 25 10:51 GMT (UK) »
See 1939 register.  He was b 18.7.1875.  Do either of his parents have any connection to Scotland as I’m struggling to find him on the 1881 census
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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 October 25 11:17 GMT (UK) »
The info I have is

Williams father James Christopher 1844 born Arbroath Scotland.
Williams mother Elizabeth Simpson 1847 born Scotland.

James father Alexander 1805 Dundee
James mother Elizabeth Whitton 1809 Leith

Elisabeth S. father James Simpson b?
Elisabeth mother Elizabeth Dunbar 1815

Alexander father James (Charles?) Clark
Alexander mother Elizabeth Miln/e

Modified - oh heck! Williams grave, died 1939 aged 74 years makes his birth 1875!


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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 October 25 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I would not worry too much about the year until you know where the information came from, the point in this case there is no William Richard Clark/e born Liverpool 1874 +/- 2 years, the nearest is the one Carol posted.

Is this Susannah below?

CLARK, SUSANNAH    mmn COOK  
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 321

If so do you have the marriage cert for her parents, likely the ones below. That will give you the name of Williams parents.

Marriages Dec 1897  
William Richard Clark to Annie Cook
 W. Derby 8b 623

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 October 25 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin, that is my granma yes. This is a thread I started a few years back thinking William was of Irish descent. I have made this available to Carole as well and I'm thinking perhaps now I may be wasting your time pursuing a Scottish line.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=864827.msg7349022#msg7349022


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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 October 25 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Having had a quick look at your previous thread I would recommend starting  with the info you are positive about then work back.  Clark/Clarke is a very common surname & often found spelt with & without an "e" which makes it more difficult

Marriage at St Chrysostom 3.10.1897

William Richard Clark 21 seaman father James Christopher Clark - deceased - mariner

Annie Cook 20 - father James Cook joiner

Witnesses William Lewis & Mary Cook

1901 Census shows both William & Annie were born Liverpool

The only Clark/Welsh marriage in England or Scotland is the 1874 one shown above but that was WILLIAM Clark - not James Christopher & was at St Bride with St Saviour

Where did you get Arbroath from as the birthplace for James Christopher?

The 1874 marriage transcription is on Lancs OPC & shows William as a Wood turner & his father as James deceased
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Re: Anchor Mills Clark family.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 October 25 17:22 GMT (UK) »
The James Clark b Arbroath 6.11.1842 to Alexander Clark & Betsy Whitton had no middle name

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