Author Topic: Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769  (Read 98 times)

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Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769
« on: Wednesday 29 October 25 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I believe this woman was my 4 x great grandmother, who was born in 1781 in Newcastle upon Tyne, married there to John Simmons/Symonds in 1798, had five children with John before being transported to Port Jackson, arriving in 1814. She was assigned to convict Isaac Dowse/Douse upon arrival, helping to raise the children of his late wife. Elizabeth and Isaac had another four children, although I can find no evidence that they married.

Isaac died in 1853, when Elizabeth was 72 years old. Her life after that has been a mystery.

However I believe she died in 1869 as Elizabeth Dowle (an easy jump from Dowse to Dowle) and is buried at the All Saints cemetery in Parramatta, where her name is one of many on the memorial plaques. This also accords with the death certificate.

Parramatta Asylum records show that she arrived "from Darlinghurst" on 21 Dec 1869 and died on 31 Dec 1869.     

Am I right in thinking she would have come from Darlinghurst Gaol? Is there any way I can get access to the Darlinghurst records? She was obviously in a bad way by the time she got to Parramatta, I'd just like to get a feeling as to why she had come to the attention of authorities in the first place.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Geoff Turner,
Brisbane. 

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Re: Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 October 25 07:00 GMT (UK) »
She probably came from here:

The Darlinghurst Asylum, officially known as the Lunatic Reception House, operated from 1868 to 1961 in Sydney and served as the primary entry point for those needing psychiatric assessment in metropolitan New South Wales. Built to separate the mentally ill from the criminal justice system, people were sent there from courts for observation before being transferred to other hospitals if they were found to be unwell. After its closure, the facility was transferred to St. Vincent's Hospital in 1961 and became their mental health care unit. 

Would there be a way to access those documents?

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Re: Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 October 25 14:58 GMT (UK) »
NRS-5012 | Registers of admissions and case books [Reception House, Darlinghurst]
24-07-1868 to 30-12-1876
https://records-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/f/1e5kcq1/ADLIB_RNSW110005255

NRS-5019 | Medical case books [Reception House, Darlinghurst]
exact 24-07-1868 to exact 03-03-1914
https://records-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/f/1e5kcq1/ADLIB_RNSW110005262

NRS-5022 | Superintendent's journals [Reception House, Darlinghurst]
24-07-1868 to 31-08-1876
https://records-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/f/1e5kcq1/ADLIB_RNSW110005265

Several articles on trove regarding the set up of Lunatic Reception Houses
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225463818

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/266389158
LAW of LUNACY

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/101478154
The lunatic reception-house, Darlinghurst, is now just completed, and will in a short time be ready to
receive inmates…

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13246287

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Re: Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 October 25 22:47 GMT (UK) »
That’s a very extensive reply thanks cupoflife, and much appreciated. As I live in Queensland, I will try to find an “Ask an Archivist” or similar to see if they have private researchers who will find and copy a document for a fee, since it will not have been digitised.

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Re: Elizabeth Dowle (Dowse), arr Parramatta Asylum from Darlinghurst Dec 1769
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 October 25 00:30 GMT (UK) »
I have fired off an Ask an Archivist request quoting those three links (admissions, medical and superintendent) and attaching the Parramatta Asylum report I had. They say up to 20 working days, but I've always found that's a conservative estimate.

Once I have confirmation they have the material, with page numbers hopefully, I can take the next step of engaging a researcher. The Archives lists several organisations which have paid researchers --  has anyone found someone who is particularly useful?

We used to be lucky enough to have a Rootschatter who would photograph probates and divorces from there for us, but she has moved away from Sydney. We miss you, Ros!