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Morris ap Cadwallader
« on: Tuesday 28 October 25 10:08 GMT (UK) »
I know its on borders but i am looking for the birth of Maurice (Morris) ap Cadwallader, all i have on him is as follows
6 January 1684 - Maurice Cadwalader married Catherine Grifffith in Llanfor Church, Merionethshire, Wales.

Baptism in Ysbyty Ifan parish records: 4 December 1686 Cadwalader son of Maurice Cadwalader of Rhydlydan
Any hints would be helpfull

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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Did find this but not sure if its him,i am also looking for his death.
Lease for 21 years from Sir alter Bagot, bart., and Edward Bagot, esq., his [son] and heir apparent, to Maurice ...,
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Lease for 21 years from Sir alter Bagot, bart., and Edward Bagot, esq., his [son] and heir apparent, to Maurice Cadwalader, of a messuage or tenement called Taly Cefn isa in the township of Ffrithoedd, co. Denbigh, and closes of land belonging called y Coed Kay, tir yr odyn, y llogmawr, y bryn mawr, y ddol frwynog, y ddol newys, y bryn melyn, y waen fawr, bron y gamdda, bron y mwdwl, cae'r graig, y ffrith goch, y ffrith arw, ffrith David ap Owen, ffrith newydd, ffrith wair, and Craig y bythe, a messuage or tenement in the tenure of Maurice Cadwalader in ffrithoedd and closes of land belonging called y tir newydd, y batting bach, y Cae mawr, y waen, yr Abore, y Cae newyss, y Cae glas, ffrith y gwairm y Cae Cochion, y ffrith vcha, and a third part of ffrithgyd, and a messuage or tenement in the township of Ffrithoedd late in the tenure of Thomas Griffith or Edward Thomas, his son, and closes of land belonging called y Cae tan y ty, y gilfach, y Cae gleision, Cae yr yscybor, pen craig yr eryr, y ffrithoed Cochion, and two parts of ffrithgyd. Rent: £18 p.a. at SS. Philip and James and All Saints; 12s. in lieu of presents yearly, and £8 in lieu of heriot.
Preferred citation: 861.
Creation Date
1697, Aug. 8.

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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 15:48 GMT (UK) »
hi, I presume you’ve looked at Griffith’s Pedigrees already.

A marriage record at ysbyty ifan to a Griffith could be a member of the Foelas or Voelas family.

Morris/maurice and cadwaladr is a name combination that re-occurs in the llanfihangel y pennant and penmorfa parishes. The clennenau family being one.


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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Griffith was the Descendant of Griffith ap Evan of Ucheldre the son of Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch,She left with her son Cadwallader with the Quakers and stayed with her brother Hugh Griffith,its believed Evan and Morris ap Cadwallader share the same male line due to both being E ydna haplogroup,Morris ap Cadwalader never left for US so not sure what happened but trying to trace him back


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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Bangor university hold the estate archives for north Wales. They may be able to help.

Crynwyr is welsh for quakers.  A quick search on Abe books came up with a book: CRYNWYR BORE CYMRU 1653-1699

Seems to fall in your date of research.

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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 October 25 12:21 GMT (UK) »
There is an entry for Ucheldre ( gwyddelwern, merioneth) in Griffith’s pedigrees, but this records The Meyrick family purchasing it in the early 1600s.

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Re: Morris ap Cadwallader
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 October 25 14:27 GMT (UK) »
https://discover.library.wales/discovery/search?vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en

Have you looked on Welsh Wills for possibilities.  You'll have to try name  variations. 
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