Morris ap Cadwallader

[tommy-tipper]

I know its on borders but i am looking for the birth of Maurice (Morris) ap Cadwallader, all i have on him is as follows
6 January 1684 - Maurice Cadwalader married Catherine Grifffith in Llanfor Church, Merionethshire, Wales.

Baptism in Ysbyty Ifan parish records: 4 December 1686 Cadwalader son of Maurice Cadwalader of Rhydlydan
Any hints would be helpfull

[tommy-tipper]

Did find this but not sure if its him,i am also looking for his death.
Lease for 21 years from Sir alter Bagot, bart., and Edward Bagot, esq., his [son] and heir apparent, to Maurice ...,
Description
Lease for 21 years from Sir alter Bagot, bart., and Edward Bagot, esq., his [son] and heir apparent, to Maurice Cadwalader, of a messuage or tenement called Taly Cefn isa in the township of Ffrithoedd, co. Denbigh, and closes of land belonging called y Coed Kay, tir yr odyn, y llogmawr, y bryn mawr, y ddol frwynog, y ddol newys, y bryn melyn, y waen fawr, bron y gamdda, bron y mwdwl, cae'r graig, y ffrith goch, y ffrith arw, ffrith David ap Owen, ffrith newydd, ffrith wair, and Craig y bythe, a messuage or tenement in the tenure of Maurice Cadwalader in ffrithoedd and closes of land belonging called y tir newydd, y batting bach, y Cae mawr, y waen, yr Abore, y Cae newyss, y Cae glas, ffrith y gwairm y Cae Cochion, y ffrith vcha, and a third part of ffrithgyd, and a messuage or tenement in the township of Ffrithoedd late in the tenure of Thomas Griffith or Edward Thomas, his son, and closes of land belonging called y Cae tan y ty, y gilfach, y Cae gleision, Cae yr yscybor, pen craig yr eryr, y ffrithoed Cochion, and two parts of ffrithgyd. Rent: £18 p.a. at SS. Philip and James and All Saints; 12s. in lieu of presents yearly, and £8 in lieu of heriot.
Preferred citation: 861.
Creation Date
1697, Aug. 8.

[collwyn ap tangno]

hi, I presume you’ve looked at Griffith’s Pedigrees already.

A marriage record at ysbyty ifan to a Griffith could be a member of the Foelas or Voelas family.

Morris/maurice and cadwaladr is a name combination that re-occurs in the llanfihangel y pennant and penmorfa parishes. The clennenau family being one.

[tommy-tipper]

Catherine Griffith was the Descendant of Griffith ap Evan of Ucheldre the son of Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch,She left with her son Cadwallader with the Quakers and stayed with her brother Hugh Griffith,its believed Evan and Morris ap Cadwallader share the same male line due to both being E ydna haplogroup,Morris ap Cadwalader never left for US so not sure what happened but trying to trace him back

[collwyn ap tangno]

Bangor university hold the estate archives for north Wales. They may be able to help.

Crynwyr is welsh for quakers.  A quick search on Abe books came up with a book: CRYNWYR BORE CYMRU 1653-1699

Seems to fall in your date of research.

[collwyn ap tangno]

There is an entry for Ucheldre ( gwyddelwern, merioneth) in Griffith’s pedigrees, but this records The Meyrick family purchasing it in the early 1600s.

[wilcoxon]

https://discover.library.wales/discovery/search?vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en

Have you looked on Welsh Wills for possibilities.  You'll have to try name  variations. 

[tommy-tipper]

FAO collwyn ap tangno,I am in a group of Ydna who are linked to the Quakers who left to start Merion,Gywnedd County with Penn in 1683 and found a intresting article involving Collwyn ap Tangno which includes Morris and Roberts who left with Quakers so it might intrest you
Collwyn  had  a son,  Meredith  ap  Collwyn,  of  Llyn,  who
had  Gwrgan,  who  had  Einion,  who  had  Meredith,  who  had
Howell,  who  had  Griffith,  who  had  levan,  who  had  Rhys,  who
had  levan,  who  had  Griffith  ap  levan,  who  was  father  to  Mor-
ris ap  Griffith,  who  held  the  lands  of  Pencoed,  near  Plas  Du,  in
the  parish  of  Llanarmon,  and  other  detached  farms  about  the
year  1 500  and  later^  This  Morris  ap  Griffith  had  issue  several
sons,  viz.:  Griffith  Morris,  John  Morris,  William  Morris,
Thomas  Morris,  Hugh  Morris,  Richard  Morris,  David  Mor-
ris, Robert  Morris  and  Meredith  Morris.  Thomas  Morris  had
(besides  a son  Richard)  a son  Robert,  called  Robert  Thomas
Morris,  of  Cowyns,  who  was  father  of  Richard  Roberts,  who
by  Margaret  his  wife,  daughter  of  Richard  Evans,  was  father
to  John  Roberts  (born  1648),  Richard  Roberts  and  Anne  Rob-
erts. Both  his  brother,  Richard,  and  his  sister,  Anne,  appear
to  have  removed  with  John  Roberts  to  Pennsylvania  in  1683.