Family of CHARLES CLARK, sailed Aberdeen to Melbourne on "Jane Geary" 1852-53

[GeoffTurner]

The marriage register says he is from Rose St, Darlington, which runs of Cleveland St on the city side of the Uni of Sydney.

[GeoffTurner]

Which child's baptism was it where he was a milk vendor, Sue? I have

Thomas Wilson
1907–1907
Ivy Esther Wilson
1908–1970
Myra (Lillian) Wilson
1911–1988
Edna Phyllis Wilson
1913–1995

[Neale1961]

I am trying to find a woman named Louisa Wilson who might be his mother. Aged 15 or older when he was born. So that she just gave her name as the child's surname if she was unmarried, which was more usual.

According to Sidney, Louisa's maiden name was "unknown". So logically it won't be Wilson.

[GeoffTurner]

He might have been trying to cover up the implications of him having the same surname as her. I'm starting to get the sense that Sidney might not be the most reliable of sources.

[sparrett]

Which child's baptism was it where he was a milk vendor, Sue? I have

Thomas Wilson
1907–1907
Ivy Esther Wilson
1908–1970
Myra (Lillian) Wilson
1911–1988
Edna Phyllis Wilson
1913–1995

Myra Lillian.
Carter, not Vendor actually.
Sue

[GeoffTurner]

My cousin, who is the daughter of Ivy Esther Wilson -- the daughter of Sidney Wilson and Ethel May Clark, tells me:
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I connected Sidney to Thomas Wilson Garlick through my DNA match to Diane Garlick who turned up as an extended family match of 135cM, half 2nd cousin. I contacted Diane and we were both mystified as to how we were connected.
I started looking into Thomas Wilson Garlick, Diane’s 2 x G Grandfather, he lived in Wollongong/ Clifton at the time & place where Sidney says that he was born. Thomas’s marriage had broken down by the mid 1870s, according to court information from Trove. From what we can gather Thomas was a bit of a rogue and have obtained a lot of information on him, and I believe Sidney was similar to Thomas.
After Sidney served in WWI he left the family, and not much is known of him. We think we have his correct death certificate.
After I put Thomas Wilson Garlick in my (Ancestry) tree, I have DNA matched with his family in particular through his maternal line. I don’t seem to have any connection to Thomas’s wife, Mary Collaery.
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So as David Nicoll suggested, DNA is the key to establishing who was the father of Sidney Wilson -- Thomas Wilson Garlick. We just need to find the mother (who Sidney said was Louisa), and a birth registration for Sidney. So I will keep at it.

Geoff

[GeoffTurner]

And the NSW Government Gazette of 20 Apr 1888 notes that Thomas Wilson Garlick has been appointed magistrate at "Clifton, near Wollongong". 

[Neale1961]

Around the time of Sidney Ernest's birth, Garlick had been living apart from his wife and had not been paying for her maintenance. Therefore, plenty of opportunity to get another woman pregnant.

In the 1870's Garlick had been arrested for rape of a 12yr old in New Zealand. Had he repeated this in Australia, the subsequent birth may not have been registered; or perhaps registered many years later.
Garlick seems to have been a man with considerable "power" and "influence". Who knows what was done to cover up the birth of an illegitimate child.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18701216.2.19?end_date=31-12-1873&items_per_page=10&query=%22Wilson+Garlick%22+AND+rape&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1869


House belonging to Thomas Wilson Garlick at Clifton
https://www.illawarramuseum.com/page/wombarra-129-morrison-ave-aliummare

[sparrett]

After Sidney served in WWI he left the family, and not much is known of him. We think we have his correct death certificate.


Geoff

Perhaps you already have this…….

Search of NSW archives brings up a divorce petition for Norman Charles JACKSON and Amelia JACKSON with the co-respondent Sidney Ernest WILSON.  I don't know whether this ever proceeded, but the couple did not share an address in 1930 (E Roll) and when Amelia died in 1963 her surname was still JACKSON

I suspect this is the same chap in this story about a cab driver named Sidney Ernest WILSON who borrowed a large amount of money from Amelia JACKSON who in turn got it from her carpenter husband.
It all happened around Cessnock and Newcastle.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139490914?searchTerm=%22sidney%20ernest%20williams%22

By co-incidence, Amelia was nee WILSON, her father being Thomas WILSON. The first paragraph of the story uses the surname WILLIAMS for the man, but later uses WILSON.


Sue