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William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 16:43 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for William Hart and his wife Jane. Thye had the following children - Mary Ann born 1818, James born 1819, William born 1821 and George born 1825. Mary Ann married John Miner in 1839 and on the marriage certificate William occupation miner is deceased. I can't find anything else about his family or what happened to their other children. If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks

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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 October 25 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to the marriage of Mary Ann?  Those names can be helpful if Hart relatives.
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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 October 25 23:35 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 has a George Hart 15yrs  ?? Priscilla Hart 12 & Sarah Hart 10 living in Halesowen seemingly with an Edward & Jane Jones

Did William perhaps die & Jane remarry?

You have posted on the Shropshire board (& the persons listed above are all shown as born there) but you also mention Dudley which was in Staffs.  Apart from the 1839 marriage being in Dudley - is there any other connection?
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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 October 25 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Original baptismal register

Priscilla Hart "said to be born 20.9.1928" baptised 1.1.1837 Oldbury, Salop diocese Worcs.  Parents William & Jane

Same day, place & parents - Sarah Hart "said to be born" but date unclear although it has been transcribed as 5.6.1807 which is most unlikely

James & Mary Ann were both baptised 31.10.1819
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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 October 25 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to the marriage of Mary Ann?  Those names can be helpful if Hart relatives.

No the witnesses were Thomas Horton and Mary Miner. She married John Miner and Mary was his sister.

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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 October 25 19:36 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 has a George Hart 15yrs  ?? Priscilla Hart 12 & Sarah Hart 10 living in Halesowen seemingly with an Edward & Jane Jones

Did William perhaps die & Jane remarry?

You have posted on the Shropshire board (& the persons listed above are all shown as born there) but you also mention Dudley which was in Staffs.  Apart from the 1839 marriage being in Dudley - is there any other connection?

Thanks - that is more than I have been able to find and is really helpful.

I put it in Shropshire, because they were born there. The boundaries then changed to Worcestershire and then Mary Ann's marriage was in Dudley. I was presuming that the Harts had been in Shropshire before their children were born there.

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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 October 25 20:34 GMT (UK) »
possible marriage 16 Nov 1834 Handsworth Edward Jones & Jane Hart

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NV2N-Y3R?lang=en
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 October 25 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Priscilla Hart married Joseph Millard 26th march 1849. Father William Hart occupation -Miner
Priscilla died 18th April 1902.

Can be found in 1851/61/71/81/91 &1901 census.



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Joseph Millward   Head   50 Mill furnace man b Dudley, Worcestershire
Sarah Millward Wife 49 b Dudley, Worcestershire
Abraham Millward Son Unmarried 27 Mill furnace man b Dudley, Worcestershire
Joseph Millward   Son 24 Puddler b Oldbury, Worcestershire
William Millward   Son 23 Hammer man   b Oldbury, Worcestershire
Edwin Millward Son 18 Iron work lab b Oldbury, Worcestershire
John   Millward Son 15   Iron work lab b Oldbury, Worcestershire
Ellen   Millward Daughter 14 - b Oldbury, Worcestershire
Thomas Millward Son   - 13 Scholar b Oldbury, Worcestershire
Priscilla Millward   Daughter-in-law    21 Dress maker b Oldbury, Worcestershire
Sarah J Millward   Grand daughter   - 2 -    b Oldbury, Worcestershire
William   Millward Grand son 0 b Oldbury, Worcestershire

MILLWARD, WILLIAM       mmn HART 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 18  Page 613

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Re: William and Jane Hart and family - Halesowen, Dudley
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 October 25 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Possible Burial?

25 Aug 1831 Christ Church, Oldbury, Worcs
WILLIAM Hart age 40, abode Oldbury
(FreeREG)

There is a EDWARD Jones buried same Church 09 Nov 1845 age 67


+ this unusual Burial info same Church;

JANE Jones 06 Jan 1848 age 58
Daug of JAMES/ANN Lloyd
Abode Oldbury
Born in Willenhall

Now interestingly there is this Marriage on Familysearch;

Marriage  6 March 1815
Aston juxta Birmingham, Warwickshire
William HART to Jane LLOYD

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