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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #27 on: Monday 27 October 25 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Ticketyboo

Yes, that is very true but the text was written by the seller not the newspaper!

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #28 on: Monday 27 October 25 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Alan Boyd,

No, they gave me the owners names and dates from the item in 1821 when he was the buyer and then the names and dates of subsequent buyers until it was bought by Vaux themselves

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #29 on: Monday 27 October 25 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Elliven on Monday 27 October 25 17:16 GMT (UK)
Alan Boyd,

No, they gave me the owners names and dates from the item in 1821 when he was the buyer and then the names and dates of subsequent buyers until it was bought by Vaux themselves

Neville

Neville, I’ve just amended my question, but to save you checking: if George Ornsby bought it in 1821 why was John Newton paying rent to his father Capt Ornsby in 1802? Would this be George Ornsby buying it back after his father had sold it to John Newton some time after 1802?
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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #30 on: Monday 27 October 25 17:23 GMT (UK) »
There have been two George Ornsbys mentioned in connection with these properties

Wills of both men are to be found here:
https://familyrecords.awh.durham.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php

and though I've only had a quick glance through I think George Ornsby of Lanchester Lodge is very possible to be the nephew of Captain George Ornsby.

I've run out of time but thought I'd post in case someone else has time to look.

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #31 on: Monday 27 October 25 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Boo is correct, Captain George Ornsby was not George Ornsby's father.

According to the genealogy here–
https://archive.org/details/historyantiquiti00long/page/n537/mode/2up?q=ornsby

—if I am interpreting it correctly:

Henry Ornsby of Lanchester (1706-1747) had two sons:

George Ornsby of Lanchester (1736-1809); this is Captain Ornsby, no children.
Henry Ornsby of Darlington (1739-1806) ; this was the father of George Ornsby of Lanchester Lodge.
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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #32 on: Monday 27 October 25 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Tickettyboo and AlanBoyd,

I stand corrected.  I had not realised there were two men named George Ornsby

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #33 on: Monday 27 October 25 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Do have a look at those wills Neville, , from what little I saw of the Captain George one which seemed to confirm he was the uncle of the Lanchester Lodge one, I also got the feeling that Capt George had left property in Lanchester to this nephew of his - but  we were due to go out so I couldn't look properly.

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 12:56 GMT (UK) »
and in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty two
Came the Reverend George Ornsby of Fishlake in the County of York
Clerk the Eldest Son and heir at Law of George Ornsby formerly of Darlington
in the County of Durham and afterwards of Lanchester Lodge in the same County
Esquire deceased, who was the Nephew and heir at Law of George Ornsby formaly
a Lieutenant in one of Her Majesty's Chatham Marine Companies
Here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1L-HXC6

And other similar stuff in those rolls.

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Re: John Newton, Lanchester
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 28 October 25 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Tickettyboo on Monday 27 October 25 17:23 GMT (UK)
Wills of both men are to be found here:
https://familyrecords.awh.durham.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php

Captain George's will also proved later in the same month in the PCC
Will of George Ornsby, Captain in His Majesty's Royal Marines of Gateshead, Durham
Date: 27 November 1809
Reference: PROB 11/1505/394
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D378709
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