James DALLEY d.31 Dec 1911 Sydney, NSW

[BonnieDownUnder]

Trying to establish when and where James DALLEY was born.

He died 31 Dec 1911 in Sydney in his 52nd year. Parents listed as James and Emma

Married in Sydney 29 Dec 1885 to Ellen Carnell HARVEY 1861-1942

They had three children Emily Olive 1886-1942, William James 1889-1964, John Harvey 1905-1965

Many thanks, Bonnie

[Neale1961]

Married in Sydney 29 Dec 1885 to Ellen Carnell HARVEY 1861-1942

What information is on the marriage certificate?

Have you looked at the children's birth certificates to see information about parents' birthplace?

You really need to look at more than just the index to the death certificate.

[sparrett]

They had three children Emily Olive 1886-1942, William James 1889-1964, John Harvey 1905-1965

Many thanks, Bonnie

Four children.
Sons- William, James and Jack . Daughter Emily Olive.
Emily Olive's death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17829168?searchTerm=%22%20%20%20dalley%22

Ellen Carnell's death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17817657?searchTerm=%22%20%20%20dalley%22

Sue

[Neale1961]

I can see an emigration in Oct 1878 From Cornwall to New Zealand for a James DALLEY (age 19) with various siblings and parents James and Emma (both 43).

Have you looked into this family? They were from Roche in Cornwall.
The father was a miner. He died in NZ in 1905.
The mother was Emma Grace, nee GROSE. She died in NZ in 1902.
The oldest son, John died in a mining accident in QLD in 1887.

You would need to acquire certificates to confirm this is your family.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255633863/james-dalley

[BonnieDownUnder]

Many thanks Neale1961 and Sparrett your input, very much appreciated.
Yes, have already applied for the marriage certificate of James & Emma.
Bonnie

[Neale1961]

Yes, have already applied for the marriage certificate of James & Emma.

This is freely available online. it was in Cornwall.

It is the 1886 marriage of James and ELLEN in NSW that you need.

[cupoflife]

Probate Packets:
James Dalley - Date of Death 31/12/1911, Place of residence St Peters NSW
NRS-13660-6-614-Series 4_55196
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW115572704

Ellen Carnell Dalley - Date of Death 09/10/1942, Granted On 04/06/1943
NRS-13660-21-5194-Series 4_279375
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW111653594

[giblet]

The oldest son, John died in a mining accident in QLD in 1887.

You would need to acquire certificates to confirm this is your family.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255633863/james-dalley

Following on from Neale1961. IF this is your family there is a newspaper article on the death of John in Charters Towers.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/288952663

There most likely would not be a headstone for John and over the years the steel markers with grave numbers on them are rare to find. Actually the cemetery is in pretty poor condition which is a shame as the people buried there were the back bone to the town. I live in Charters Towers and if this is your family i am more than happy to go have a look for you.

Burial register ... no headstone but does give a plot number

https://www.charterstowers.qld.gov.au/Services/Facilities-and-services/Cemeteries

[BonnieDownUnder]

They had three children Emily Olive 1886-1942, William James 1889-1964, John Harvey 1905-1965

Many thanks, Bonnie

Four children.
Sons- William, James and Jack . Daughter Emily Olive.
Emily Olive's death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17829168?searchTerm=%22%20%20%20dalley%22

Ellen Carnell's death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17817657?searchTerm=%22%20%20%20dalley%22

Sue

I have searched again at birth records and unable to find a William and a James. My findings, there is only a William James.  Bonnie