Looking for Grace Edwards in 1871/1881

[Ladyhawk]

i thought that unless Charles was in jail again!!

This Charles doesn’t fit with the one who went to jail though, does he?

heywood, I think the "criminal" Charles is a totally different man

what happened to Charles snr. Also I have failed badly to find him pre 1861 census in any shape or form.

Agree with you both

The 1871 & 1861 censuses give his pob Grays Essex 

Same as you SS having trouble finding him and his parents on earlier censuses

Brought forward the 1861 census for anyone else looking

1861c Piece   385 Folio   63 Page number   28
23 Asylum Road Camberwell
Henry J Lester 57 Somerset Frome occ coachman
Ann 50 Middx Soho   Wife
Charles 30 Essex Grays Son occ wine merchant cl.

I wondered about this entry in Islington birth place/occ not a match

Charles Lester 58 Islington, occ cashier & book keeper
Spouse Mary Ann Lester 40 Southsea
1891 census Piece 171 Folio   32

[Milliepede]

I'm still looking as well but nothing further to add as yet.

In 1861 Charles is transcribed with surname Leslie on ancestry.  Parents are Lester.
I wonder why his surname was written out as his mother just has ditto. 

[heywood]

i thought that unless Charles was in jail again!!

This Charles doesn’t fit with the one who went to jail though, does he?

heywood, I think the "criminal" Charles is a totally different man


SS

They’re not the same person at all. That’s what I was pointing out.

[Milliepede]

I got the birth image for the Joshua Lester that SS posted.

Born 14 March 1869 South Hylton Ford

Father Charles Lester a clerk in Ford paper mill

Mother Grace Edith Emily Lester formerly Edwards

So another name Edith slotted in on this one. 

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks for letting us know the details.....a  different clerk occupation from the 1871 where he was a listed as a wine merchant cl   edit to add and 1867 birth Charles Lester occ Accountant

Who registered the birth?

[Ladyhawk]

In 1861 Charles is transcribed with surname Leslie on ancestry.  Parents are Lester.
I wonder why his surname was written out as his mother just has ditto.

Following on from your comment I did a quick search last night for a Charles Leslie born c1830
this one came up on 1881 census in Warwickshire his occupation Accountant, wrong pob  though I haven't had a chance yet to follow this family up to see where it leads - if anywhere
 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27N-V2G8?lang=en (no similar records were found)
Charles Leslie age 51 Spouse Sarah E.
They have six children, one of those is named Edward Clerk (out of employment) born c 1863 Birmingham. First child named John, Clerk (Accountant) born c 1861 Broughton In Furness, Lancashire

If I get chance will try and follow up later 

[Milliepede]

Birth registered 24 April 1869 by Grace Edith Emily Lester mother South Hylton Ford

[Ladyhawk]

In 1861 Charles is transcribed with surname Leslie on ancestry.  Parents are Lester.
I wonder why his surname was written out as his mother just has ditto.

Following on from your comment I did a quick search last night for a Charles Leslie born c1830
this one came up on 1881 census in Warwickshire his occupation Accountant, wrong pob  though I haven't had a chance yet to follow this family up to see where it leads - if anywhere
 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27N-V2G8?lang=en (no similar records were found)
Charles Leslie age 51 Spouse Sarah E.
They have six children, one of those is named Edward Clerk (out of employment) born c 1863 Birmingham. First child named John, Clerk (Accountant) born c 1861 Broughton In Furness, Lancashire

If I get chance will try and follow up later 

Here's what I've found for the above Charles LESLIE on 1881 census - looks as if his surname should be LEESE

1901 census surname transcribed as HEESE
Charles 71, occ manufacturers Clerk , Sarah M 71 & Florence E 35

1871 census surname LEES
Charles    40 Accountant   
Sarah M 40 Birmingham Wife
John 11 Broughton   Son
Edward 8 Erdington   Son
Millicent 6   Daughter
Florence 5   Daughter
Jessie 3   Daughter
Ellen 15   Niece

LEESE, EDWARD  ERNEST   mmn JEROME
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 295

LEESE, MILLICENT  ADA   mmn JEROME
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 348

LEESE, FLORENCE  ELLEN   mmn JEROME
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in LANCASTER  Volume 08E  Page 623   

Marriage Sept 1851 Kings Norton same page
Charles LEESE / Sarah Maria JEROME
Marriage image on Anc*y no father's names given,
Married 28 Aug 1851 Charles occ coach maker,
one witness Rebecca LEESE

As your Grace Emily & Charles LESTER were on the 1871 census in Durham I think you can cross this Charles off the list

[Ladyhawk]

Not giving up quite yet but still not finding an Edward Neaves born c 1833 Kew Surrey, occ painter & Grace (Emily) nee Edwards born c 1846 Gloucester Clifton Bristol on the 1881 censuses 

I found some Pratt Street addresses in 1881 but none after number 55, I think.
I wonder if there are missing pages in the census?

Piece 207, folio 54, page 10, schedule 588 and next page. But no help that I can see.

Thought I'd check out the family living at 67 Pratt Street in 1881 on the slight off chance there may have been some connection but none that I can see either 

Street Address   67 Pratt St
Registration District   Pancras
Sub registration district   Camden Town
Piece   207 Folio   54 Page number   10

Eliza SMITH 39 Head (wife dittoed)
Arthur 9 Son >>>> 1871 Arthur John mn Shobridge
Edith 8 Daughter>>1872 Edith Florence mn Shobridge
Thomas 4 Son >>>> 1876 Thomas Sidney mn Shoebridge
Mabel  11 months Daughter >>> 1880 Mabel Eleanor mn Shobridge

Eliza SHOBRIDGE married John SMITH on 22nd Dec 1870 (image on Anc*y)

The 1882 baptism of Mary Lottie Letitia NEAVES born 10 Oct 1881, address 67 Pratt Street - I guess that their address would be the same on her birth certificate - unfortunately you cannot obtain this as a digital image 

May have overlooked this on the thread address 81 Hampstead Rd on their 1880 marriage has anyone checked to see who was living there in 1881?