Looking for Grace Edwards in 1871/1881

[heywood]

I have been wondering how you know that Grace is the one born in Clifton as there are no later records before her death.

[Milliepede]

Can’t be sure she is without other evidence but this is the only card on the table for what happened to her. 

Her father was indeed Joseph Edwards as per the Lester marriage and 2 of her sisters - Fanny and Eliza were also living in the London area and having children there. 

It isn’t much but haven’t found a death for her as Grace Edwards or any other likely marriages. 

She is with family in 1851 age 5 and in 1861 age 16.

[softly softly]

Milliepede, I was going down the same route, trying to start at the beginning as such.

1851.

Grace Edwards   Head Widow 42 Laundress b Bristol, Gloucestershire,
Ann Edwards Daughter    Unmarried 18 Servant b Clifton, Gloucestershire,
Thomas Edwards Son - 13 Errand boy  b Clifton, Gloucestershire
Fanny Edwards   Daughter - 11 Scholar b Clifton, Gloucestershire
J Edwards Son   - 7 Scholar b Clifton, Gloucestershire
Grace Edwards   Daughter - 5 Scholar b Clifton, Gloucestershire,

Cannot find any GRO registrations with "mmn Hill" in Glous. Grace does appear to have a baptism in 1845 that ties in with same address as 1851. Cannot find the other 3 births though.

SS

[Milliepede]

Yes there aren't many Grace's to choose from are there 

I've been helping a friend with this family for several years on and off slowly tracing all the children.
I couldn't find a birth record for Grace either but from memory some of the children were born in Wales then moved to Bristol.

[glen11]

Hello everyone, Millipede is my friend helping me.The six eldest children were born in Monmouth.Joseph their father was a turnpike labourer.The family moved back to Bristol and Grace was the only one born there.Joseph was killed in a quarry accident 1847.But on the 1851 census Grace puts them all down from Clifton,Bristol(i think).and her maiden name was Grace Hill.They told me at Bristol archives,a lot of records were lost in the bombing WW2.

[softly softly]

Hi glen11, welcome. Thanks for clarifying a few issues. You will find us "rootschatters" taking apart all previous research and putting it back together to assure ourselves of facts. I am pretty sure in my own mind that we have the correct Grace. It's a shame we all seem to be struggling with her from 1861-1880. I like others will continue to look until nothing new appears.

SS

[glen11]

The thing is, except for one son, George Henry Edwards who died from smallpox 1848,they all had only one name.

[Ladyhawk]

  Afternoon everyone - not sure yet if there might be a connection to the Charles Lester/Grace (Emily) Edwards we are looking for so thought I’d post to get other opinions.....

Charles Lester Age 6
Birth Date   Mar 1867
Admission Date   10 Nov 1873
School   St Mark's School
Father   Charles Lester, address 34 Elgin Terrace
Date of leaving Oct 1875
Also listed with him is Edward Lester born Jun 1864(5) date of leaving May 1877
Last school attended Private S

Charles Lester Age   8
Birth Date   24 Mar 1867
Admission Date   29 Nov 1875
School   St Augustine's School
Father   Charles Lester, address 3 Cambridge Terrace
Last school attending S. Mark’s date of leaving 24.11.76

Chas Lester Age 9
Birth Date   24 Mar 1867
Admission Date   4 Dec 1876
School   St Mark's School
No address and no father or guardians name
left Feb 1877

I thought this might be Charles Lester birth entry so took a chance as he had mn Edwards not found a matching birth entry for an Edward Lester Jun/Sept qtr. 1864 or 65 with mn Edwards 

LESTER, Charles   mn EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 545   

I downloaded the digital image his dob matches that of the School admissions records above 

Is this just a coincidence that his mother is named Emily

Born 24 March 1867
address 59 Bell Street Marylebone
Father Charles Lester occ Accountant,
Mother Emily formerly EDWARDS
Mother E Lester registered his birth 4th May 1867, same address

Not having much luck finding a Charles LESTER , accountant, Emily, Edward & Charles or variants) on 1871 census    Nor could I find a Charles Lester / Emily Edwards marriage on FreeBMD 

Also tried searching for a Charles Lester/Lister with all the addresses mentioned on LER but only found these names so far listed with those addresses 

John Rennies.     59 Bell Street      Marylebone         1873
Henry Collins      34 Elgin Terrace  Paddington          1875
Henry Hiscock      8 Cambridge Terrace Kilburn.        1878
Henry Matthews  59 Bell Street Marylebone              1893

I did find a Charles LISTER age 37 born Staffordshire married 1835 St Leonards Shoreditch a Mary (nee Stevens) they are on 1851 census with 4 children, Mary, Edith, Harriett and Charlotte  his occupation Accountant they are living in Oxfordshire. In 1861/71 this Charles & Mary are now living in Alverstoke Hampshire

[Ladyhawk]

Born Grace Edwards in Clifton Bristol c1845 father Joseph mother Grace

In 1880 she marries Edward Neaves 48 widow occ painter as Grace Lester 34 widow father Joseph Edwards.

Residence at time of marriage 81 Hampstead Rd.  I cannot find a marriage to a Mr Lester or find her as Edwards or Lester in 1871.

She and Edward had a daughter 30 Oct 1881, residence then 67 Pratt St Camden Town and another daughter in Dec 1883. 

Death for Grace Emily Neaves (no idea where the Emily has come from) same quarter Dec 1883.

Can’t be sure she is without other evidence but this is the only card on the table for what happened to her. 

Her father was indeed Joseph Edwards as per the Lester marriage and 2 of her sisters - Fanny and Eliza were also living in the London area and having children there. 

It isn’t much but haven’t found a death for her as Grace Edwards or any other likely marriages. 

She is with family in 1851 age 5 and in 1861 age 16.

For info.

No details of the death were given for Grace Emily NEAVES so not sure if the details are known - downloaded the digital image 

Edward Neaves occ painter on 1880 marriage to Grace Lester 

18 November 1883
67 Pratt Street
Grace Emily Neaves age 36 wife of Edward Neaves a Tailor
cause of death Septicemia 5 days, Peritonitis 3 days
Informant E Neaves widower of deceased present at death, same address