Common name William Matthews brick wall

[Jason Jase]

I am trying to push back my tree on a family line with a common name.
So people can see it they are on family search William Howard Matthews LWVM-TR6
and wife Mary Barrett L8RW-5KY. They are heavily research so what I need help with is William Matthews Grandparents and above. 

William's parents are said to be William Matthews and Mary Wragg. Can anyone help me with this?

[CaroleW]

Can you include some dates - birth/marriage/death  etc.  It is always advisable to include details in your post including what census info you have as it saves peoples time having to try to find the record you are referring to

[amondg]

William Mathews married Mary Barrett (minor) 2 March 1852 at Crich.

His father  William  - ...inger ? Could be Stockinger

Her father William  - Miner

Witness Joseph Elliott and Ann Barrett.
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The William and Mary 1841 Belper William is a cotton frame work knitter, the occupations don't match unless a frame work knitter is also a Stockinger

deleted wrong family

[osprey]

1852 marriage on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KB68-JWZ?lang=en

is this the family in 1861?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FM-N4R?lang=en

children registered with mmn Barratt except for Elizabeth who was registered as Barratt mmn Barratt

1851 for Mary & family with Elizabeth listed as granddaughter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDH-V2S?lang=en

1871 for Mary senior with Matthews grandchildren in household
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBXQ-GF4?lang=en

Possible baptism for William with father William a stockinger
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP8C-1JY6?lang=en

Batpism in 1841 for sisters Sarah b. 1834 & Hannah b. 1829
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP8Z-PT3X?lang=en

1841 census?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7SY-VHH?lang=en

[amondg]

In 1861 census

The family before William 1832 Coal Miner and his wife Mary is :-

 William Mathews 59 Frame work knitter born Watnall Notts. and his wife Mary 70 born Heath Derby

probably his father but no proof.

It may prove useful to get the death certificates for Mary Mathews who died April 1871 age 80 to see who registered her death.(Buried 16 April 1871 of Swanwick.)

Likewise William Mathews who died 1878 age 77 reg. Belper.

GRO cost is £3 for a digital copy.

[Jason Jase]

so I found another persons tree that has

William Howard Matthews
B:26 Feb 1832 Swanwick, Derbyshire, England
D:21 Feb 1887 14 Mile Ranch, Rock Springs, Sweetwater, Wyoming, USA
 
parents as


William Matthews snr
B:7 Jul 1797 Pentvich, Derbyshire, England
D:Jan 1889 Belper, Derbyshire, England
and

Mary Crisp
B:12 Jun 1796 St. Peter, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
D:13 Apr 1871 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

on family search his parents are listed as

William Matthews
Birth: abt 1802
Wattnall, Nottinghamshire, England
Death: Jan 1889
Belper, Derbyshire, England

and

Mary Wragg
Female
MZPR-P86
Birth: 1791 Heath, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom
Death: 1871 Swanwick, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom

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other than Mary Wragg's death in Swanwick (if that is even right) the exact location of William Howard Matthews birth I can't tell which couple is his parents. 

[amondg]

I wonder where they got the middle name Howard.

[Jason Jase]

Can you include some dates - birth/marriage/death  etc.  It is always advisable to include details in your post including what census info you have as it saves peoples time having to try to find the record you are referring to

I have included the peoples familysearch ID numbers all documents are attached to there profile and is free to access worldwide William Howard Matthews has 32 sources attached to him it would be hard to pick which one would be most useful.

Based on the information On Ancestry and Family search it appears his parents are William and Mary. My problem is which ones.

[Jason Jase]

Another good question where did the name Howard come from???