Hughes Family burial plot - missing members

[Amy149]

Nope - I tried that and I even paid for the will search and they cannot seem to find it.

[LizzieL]

So.... I have tried to find Williams will and that has hit a bit of a dead end as the solicitors office that had it is no longer around but I am still working on that. As for his wife "lily" that appears to be his second wife Ann and she is buried with her first husband so no help there.

Could he have been buried with his first wife? Esther Mary nee Stevenson. I'm struggling to find her death or a second marriage to Ann Haynes Kendrick

[Amy149]

There is absolutely no chance of him being buried with Esther they had a very nasty divorce that was all over the newspapers as she fell in love with the chauffeur.

We cannot find the marriage certificate for his marriage to Ann but we do know that they did marry and we believe she is the woman named Lily in the newpaper article about his death as that is the name she is buried with on her first husbands grave. (its very confusing)

[Jebber]

If the Will is not with the Probate service it probably didn't go to Probate, it isn't always necessary as it depends on a number of factors. If the size of the estate is small probate is not required, the sum varies with the passage of time. If property and money is in their joint names it usually passes to the survivor without
There are various things that can affect the need for Probate. My mother's estate was small and I was executrix, the Probate Office did not require me to apply for Probate and financial institutions were happy to pay out after sight of the Will.

[jonwarrn]

Jebber, the will did go to probate.
Proved at Liverpool, 22 January 1938.
Need to put 1938 as the year of death when searching for him on there.

[Amy149]

I have tried all the different years and name variations on the probate search link but it still brings up zero records.

[LizzieL]

I've found that it sometimes says zero, but if you scroll to the bottom, pages pop up eventually. Used to work better before they decided to "improve it"

[Kiltaglassan]

Amy, follow these steps-

On 'Search probate records or find a will' page 1.

Put Hughes as last name - What was their last name?
Put William as first name - What was their first name?
Put 1938 as death year - What was their year of death?
Keep Yes/No as No

Click Save and Continue

On page 2 add NO data
Then click Save and Continue

Scroll down to Image Search Results
'6 document pages returned'
Click on page '2'
Click on Text to Enlarge

William John Seddon Hughes three from bottom - left hand column

[Douglas P]

For completeness, it looks like William's first marriage was to Esther Mary Stevenson, registered 1907, district of Chester. From newspaper archives it appears they separated in 1912 and divorced in 1915.

From earlier replies, the following records presumably show William's second wife:

Birth of Ann Haynes Caddick, mother's maiden surname Bussell, registered Q4 of 1876, district of King's Norton

Marriage of Ann Haynes Caddick & Arthur Kendrick, registered Q4 of 1898, district of King's Norton

Death of Ann Haynes Hughes, age 68, registered Q4 of 1944, district of Birmingham

Hughes Ann Haynes of Elmstead Buckingham-avenue Shoreham-by-sea Sussex widow died 12 December 1944 at 92 Edgbaston-road Cannon Hill Birmingham Probate Birmingham 7 May to Reginald Arthur Evans solicitors clerk. (Probate index, 1945)

Arthur Kendrick and wife Anne Haynes (Lily) buried Weeford, Lichfield, Staffordshire
www.findagrave.com/memorial/186410391/anne-kendrick