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Mother's name 094?
« on: Monday 20 October 25 17:31 BST (UK) »
See the attached screenshot.

Does anyone know why two of the mothers have numbers instead of given names, or do the numbers actually mean something?

I'm interested in finding out who the parents of James MacFarlane were. James is commemorated in Newcastle Memorial Park, NSW, which gives his date of death as 22 September 1984 and suggests he was born in 1890 in Scotland.

He married Agnes Blair Harris, widow of Andrew Waldie, in 1935 in Auburn NSW. She was born in Glasgow in 1888, died in Islington, NSW, on 13 January 1956, and is also commemorated in Newcastle Memorial Park. I have plenty of information about Agnes and her family but nothing about James.
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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 October 25 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian, I'm not an Australian expert by any means but think the numbers MAY refer to districts in NSW. Did your James die in the Newcastle area of NSW as that is district 101. His mother may have died district 094. Father died WARATAH. Possible death

MACFARLANE HARRY R14689/1925 VERA M    WARATAH

It's s*ds law that Anc* is down to look at NSW electoral registers etc.

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https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/family-history-search/early-church-and-district-codes#toc-search-district-codes

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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 October 25 19:50 BST (UK) »
Quote from: softly softly on Monday 20 October 25 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi Forfarian, I'm not an Australian expert by any means but think the numbers MAY refer to districts in NSW. Did your James die in the Newcastle area of NSW as that is district 101. His mother may have died district 094. Father died WARATAH.
Goodness, that would never have occured to me, but you could well be right.

And thank you for that link to the list of codes. I'm sure it will be very useful.
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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 25 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

If fairly sure it's his age.  Died/Registered at Waratah aged 94.  The person above died/registered at Ashfield aged 73. 

NSW online index's are 'interesting'!

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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 25 23:52 BST (UK) »
Hi.
On the Nsw BMD system, the surname of the mother is not given, only the given name.
When the given name is not known on the certificate, the age is given instead.  This is aimed at helping with a  firmer  identification before the actual certificate or transcription is ordered.

An extra clue if you like.

The 3 digit thing is a weird quirk.  Perhaps allowing space on the system for those deceased over the age of EDIT  100 99 years. ;D

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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 October 25 04:48 BST (UK) »
I think it is the age of the deceased person. This is used when mothers name is not known.
The old indexes used to use the word age before the number for  example  age 73. This was instead of the 3 numbers now used.

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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 October 25 09:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: bitzar on Monday 20 October 25 23:33 BST (UK)
NSW online index's are 'interesting'!
They certainly are!

Thank you for all the help, even if it hasn't got me anywhere so far. So if his age at death was 94, he could have been born in 1889 or 1890, not just in 1890. Which doubles the number of possible candidates. :(

Do NSW marriage certs name the couple's parents? In particular do they give the mothers' maiden surnames, not just their given names?
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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 October 25 09:39 BST (UK) »
Here is a handy guide to what to expect on Australian certificates.
https://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

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There is a long thread on here about possible ways of finding more information than may appear on the certificate - by finding the Church record. I'll see if I can find it.  :)

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Re: Mother's name 094?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 October 25 09:45 BST (UK) »
This thread - though it may not help in your case. What year do you think they were married?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=546609.0
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