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Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Saturday 18 October 25 22:54 BST (UK) »
I was looking into the family of my great-grandmother's cousin Caroline Wisby (b1851). She married John George Gough who was a solicitor. They had four children, all sons, three of them I can trace what happened but one who had the unusual name of Denner Strutt Gough, born 1874 in London, disappears after the 1891 census.
I have tried looking for a marriage, a death or an emigrtion but can find no trace of him. I suppose as he had such an unusual name (he was named after a 17th century ancestor called Sir Denner Strutt) he may have changed it to something a little less unusual, but how can I find out?

Any help will be welcome.

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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 25 04:32 BST (UK) »
I see in 1911 John George Gough has helpfully put details about children
4 born one deceased.

Have you worked out who is who for that?
Ie has another one died?

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It seems to me the other 3 sons are all alive , so it must be Denner who has died. But like you I cannot see it.

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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 25 10:36 BST (UK) »
Yes that is an unusual name.  Might be worth doing a newspaper search just in case a death or anything else is mentioned.

Where were they living when you last see him?
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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 October 25 11:11 BST (UK) »
Odd for a solicitor's son to be working as a plumber's boy.
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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 October 25 11:20 BST (UK) »
Odd for a solicitor's son to be working as a plumber's boy.

In 1881 John G Gough was a tobacconist  :-\ (if I read it correctly)
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 October 25 11:24 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census reads 'Solicitors' not Solicitor. I think there is a word missing.

His occupation at the time of marriage was Solicitor's clerk.
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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 25 13:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all of you.

mckha489 - I hadn't noticed that, Denner must be the one who died although I couldn't find a death record anywhere so he must have changed his name. I need to dig a bit more.

Milliepede - I did look in the newspapers for Denner/Dennie/Den Gough and could find anything but of course he might be there under another name.

JenB - yes John and Caroline ran a tobacconists shop, or more likely she did and he was still a solicitor's clerk.

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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 25 14:02 BST (UK) »
I'm not saying this has any information on Denner, but I guess this is his father?

POOR BOY

... matches. Mr. sent the boy to the Remand Home, and meanwhile it will be seen what can be done for him. AN INCREASING FINE. John George Gough, 57, clerk, of Park-street, Stoke Newington, took too much strong drink Wednesday night, and fell and damaged hie left ...
Published: Friday 01 November 1907

Newspaper: Islington Gazette
County: London, England
Type: Article | Words: 153 | Page: 2

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... Jones Allnatt Bra df ord Dean Goodwin Jordan AllormeDeb!Goodyer Joyce Allwright Mres7 MOULD Gering leases, Allum Brennan Dennis Gough Judd Ambles ro t or Ames Ones. Kearney Kearns Amison Brooke fickle Grady Kiehl Mothers Breaks Dickinson Graham Keene Anderson ...

Published: Thursday 10 December 1903
Newspaper: Pearson's Weekly
County: London, England
Type: Illustrated | Words: 694 | Page: 19

Maybe his death was registered as "unknown male"?

Deaths Sep 1907
Unknown   Male   30   Hackney      1b      194

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Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 October 25 15:27 BST (UK) »
His mother (d. 1890) and father (d. 1918) are buried in the same plot, Square 115/125, Grave 29144, Highgate Cemetery East Memorials.

If he died between 1891 and 1911, he should have been buried in the same plot, otherwise he must have died far from home.

IF he changed his name, I suppose John would be a good guess given that he was the firstborn son of John George Gough.

This death record could be him

   GOUGH, JOHN       25 
GRO Reference: 1898  D Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 33