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Offline Jason Jase

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Helping a DNA match
« on: Saturday 18 October 25 17:38 BST (UK) »
I have a living person and here parents as a DNA match. We are stuck on her deceased grandparents and above.

the only fact I know is right is this marriage registration

Marriages Dec 1936   
Burton    Phyllis M   husband  Hampton, Walter J    Basford    7b   500

I entered them into familysearch Walter as P7GG-FQB and Phyllis as P7GL-GLT

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 October 25 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This appears to be them as well in Heanor and later in the 1939 register.

First name(s)   Phyllis Maud
Last name   Burton
Sex   Female
Marriage year   1936
Parish   Heanor St.Lawrence
Place   Heanor
Spouse's first name   Walter Josiah
Spouse's last name   Hampton
County   Derbyshire
Country   England
Register Office   Amber Valley (Ripley)
Reference   HN/08/055
Record set   Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index
Category   Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory   Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from   England, Great Britain

First name(s)   Last name(s)   Birth date   Sex   Occupation   Marital status   Schedule   Schedule sub number
Walter   Hampton   05 Jun 1908   Male   Station Berlow Inspectro Joint   Married   144   1
Phyllis   Hampton   29 Feb 1912   Female   Machinist Hosioery Manufactur   Married   144   2
Annie   Burton   25 May 1871   Female   Unpaid Domestic Duties Old Age Pensioner   Widowed   144   3
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 October 25 20:40 BST (UK) »
There is a piece in the newspaper about the wedding

Willsy


Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 October 25 21:37 BST (UK) »
From the newspaper and family mentioned, I think this would be the Charlesworth family

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u2c/

There is a marriage for Annie Burton (c 1893 sister in 1911 census)
to
Thomas Levi Charlesworth (brother in law) 1 Oct 1925, Heanor,
Annie's father Arthur Burton address 4 John Street
marriage witnesses Hiriam Burton Esther Ward

1901 John Street

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u2d/

Esther White mother-in-law

Possible marriage Arthur and Annie Elizabeth White

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u2e/

Checked all the census returns before her marriage and parents always Annie and Arthur.
Willsy


Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 October 25 23:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I wasn't able to find how I am related to this person but they would be on my dads side. I was able to push it back a few more generations
to John White M731-G2F and Paskett ? M731-G2R

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 October 25 23:44 BST (UK) »
Looking for Paskett-

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u2i/

John White and Pasketh Haseldine married 1838, trees have him as Woolston's parents.
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 25 00:16 BST (UK) »
Jason, how do you know from your original comment that you are actually tracking the right person?  The information given relating to your DNA match is not necessarily the person you're researching, unless there is more that you know that you haven't yet stated.

The name is not distinctive enough for you to be able to make the jump that you have made unless there is more to it than you have stated.

Zaph

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 25 01:39 BST (UK) »
Zaphod99,

     Hi, a little confused by your comment, where is the jump you are talking about?
     Assuming we have the right starting couple, I would be tempted to push Wo(o)lstans grandparents back to William and Elizabeth Haseldine in Cossall.
     Though whether that is the right line to follow who knows!
   
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

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Re: Helping a DNA match
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 October 25 03:39 BST (UK) »
the person I am a DNA match knew there grandparents. The fact that I haven't found exactly how I am related to them is not a surprise. I have thousands of people on my tree. There ancestors where from the exact same parish are my ancestors.     

I have linked my DNA match to Isaac Fretwell MCMX-15N who is the brother of my 2nd great grandmothers 2nd partner. She was a bigamist and took hundreds of hours and a lot of help to sort out.

I am not making the Jump that Isaac was actually the father of my great grandfather but I will not rule it out either.