Author Topic: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England  (Read 1686 times)

Offline janjim

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,041
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 19 October 25 05:36 BST (UK) »
Hi there, one wonders about this fellow hey !    Maybe Elsie also had another surname after living with him for those few years, for her return to England.

The fact is her daughter Annette married back in Reading, Berkshire, so unless she was brought home by some other family member, we will never know the whole situation.

Just waiting for a reply from this person on Ancestry.
Jan

Well if he was in the Australian Army, it was with another name.
You can search Australian ww1 records here. I tried various searches including  just putting Canada 1897, Canada 1898, & finally Canada 1899 but the results didn’t look helpful

The one guy who had Gerald in his name was older, and shorter than the NZ police description of 5ft 9in

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

Added, found another gazette entry says he was 5ft 8in.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,829
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 19 October 25 10:32 BST (UK) »
Haven't read thru the thread but came across this article which may or may not be of interest.

The Hamilton Spectator
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Thu, 29 Jul 1948
Page 7

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator/183275863/

Sandra

BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,829
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 19 October 25 10:53 BST (UK) »
Elsie Annie McKinnon  - passed 1956

The Toronto Star
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Sat, 22 Sept 1956
Page 37

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star/183276098/

Daughter Annette - 1986 (with photograph)

Reading Evening Post
Reading, Berkshire.
Tue, 15 Apr 1986
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/reading-evening-post/183277308/

Sandra
BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,829
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 19 October 25 10:59 BST (UK) »
Suspect this is the Gordon B (Beattie) McKinnon mentioned in above obit.

The Toronto Star
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Tue, 16 Apr 1968
Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star/183276159/

FIND A GRAVE


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111604207/gordon-b-mckinnon

Sandra
BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada


Online mckha489

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,169
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 19 October 25 11:18 BST (UK) »
Excellent Sandra.  The names of those two girls is correct. It must be the right Elsie,

Offline janjim

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,041
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 19 October 25 21:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you Sandra and everyone else who has assisted me through this process.
Amazing find, and now can only assume that the property in Hare Hatch, Berkshire must have transferred over to the daughter Annette, as family had still been living there up until recently.
Great sleuthing. So happy
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

Offline Jool

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,637
  • James Dodson, beautifully restored by mozza29
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 19 October 25 21:48 BST (UK) »
Great stuff Sandra, you've found the piece of the puzzle that confirms what happened to Elsie.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

Offline janjim

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,041
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 19 October 25 22:30 BST (UK) »
Yes, but what a sad story though for poor Elsie Rufey and her two daughters.  She was only 42 years of age, her husband who it would appear must have deceived her considerably, one would imagine with his Alias name and these apparent military records.  He passed away when the children were only just prior to school age, and then after his death, she found happiness again when marrying Gordon McKinnon.

I think of her two daughters, who most likely returned to Hare Hatch in Berkshire to live with their grandfather William Arthur Rufey.   

Thank you all once again for your assistance.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

Offline Jool

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,637
  • James Dodson, beautifully restored by mozza29
    • View Profile
Re: Looking for missing Elsie Annie Rufey (Le Heinsworth) b. 1914 Wokingham, England
« Reply #35 on: Monday 20 October 25 01:47 BST (UK) »
Annette was back in the UK by 1968, her engagement to Michael Weal was announced in the Reading Evening Post 28 August 1968.  It was a long engagement as they didn't marry until 1979.

Maybe she returned to the UK after the death of her step father, Gordon McKinnon. As Sandra posted, he died in Canada on 15 April 1968, or she could of course have returned years earlier.

I assume Mrs. Rufey the grandmother mentioned is her grandfather's second wife, Jessie Winifred (Griffin) Rufey.  Both of her grandparents had died by then.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton