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Help with some words, please
« on: Friday 17 October 25 01:46 BST (UK) »
I have a PCC transcript of will from 1488 which has some words I'm unsure about - see underlined words in attached images.

Any assistance in deciphering these words would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: Help with some words, please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 October 25 04:36 BST (UK) »
Here is the first image.  More to come later.

In the meantime, it's helpful if you can please supply the name of the testator.  Different versions of PCC images can often be easier to read.

...found them to scole and o(th)(er)wise...       [It's the letter thorn.]

...they been proferrid to worship...       [= were]

...hold theim co(n)tent and pleasid...       [One word split over two lines.]

...I applye me and p(ro)pose to helpe other...      [= apply myself]

...they been contentyd of ther p(ar)tes...       [Again, one word split over two lines.]

...help theim and soco(ur) theim...       [= succour.  Not overly sure of this one.]

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Re: Help with some words, please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 October 25 05:06 BST (UK) »
Second image.  I can do the last image tonight if it remains to be done.

...pleasid (th)(er)w(i)t(h) Theime...       [= therewith Them]

It's not clear whether it's a y version of a thorn or a thorn itself:  probably the former.

...so will vary from...

...that soo varieth if any suche bee shalbe...

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Re: Help with some words, please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 October 25 07:53 BST (UK) »
discretione (on two lines)
(unclear)
ev(er)more alle suche estate
other of myn
assent
Thomas Frowik
playnly may appere. The remen(au)nt/remnant
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs


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Re: Help with some words, please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 October 25 10:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you Horsleydown86 and Vance Mead. Your assistance is appreciated and having those words has helped so much. 
The testator was Robert Aubrey and the images have been taken from the copy on TNA site -  those on Ancestry were even harder to read.
Thanks again

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Re: Help with some words, please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 October 25 12:17 BST (UK) »
I've had a look at the uncertain part of the third image, with partial success:

...childern as moche as
is in [?] possible...


I also noticed that in the next line it is:

...made unto me and other of and in the Maner of...

ADDED:

The last pink part of image 3 is:

...The Remen(a)nt of...