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Re: Streets of St Fagans - Harding
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 October 25 20:35 BST (UK) »
Clearly a family that should be avoided.  ;D

Had a quick search for the other side of the family and found that Herbert Mordecai was charged with 'depasturing scabby sheep' in St Mary Hill. Sounds nasty, whatever it is.
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Re: Streets of St Fagans - Harding
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 October 25 22:26 BST (UK) »
From this discussion, it is reasonably clear that the Rose Cottage of relevance to me is the one on the map above, on the road parallel to the river heading up the hill to the castle and church, the road now called Castle Hill.

However, I did a google search for 'Rose Cottage St Fagans' and discovered that there is a grade II listed building in St Fagans called "Rose Cottage"! That one is north of the castle and church, on Crofft-y-Genau Road! Sadly, nobody seems to have written a history of that listed cottage.

So, for later searchers looking for Rose Cottage in St Fagans, be careful about which Rose Cottage you are after.
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Re: Streets of St Fagans - Harding
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 October 25 12:59 BST (UK) »
I suspect that Rose Cottage is a relatively recent name for that building. This is a link to the large scale OS map from 1969, where the cottage is indeed labelled as Rose Cottage, near the top of the view.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.6&lat=51.49085&lon=-3.27148&layers=258&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

Below is the 1911 enumerator record starting at Clive Cottages, near the bottom of the view. The records track to the north.  Bear in mind that we know that Rose Cottage is there today, but some of the named houses on this map may well have been built after 1911 e.g. La Chaumiere and Earlswood.

The enumeration sequence is:

Clive Cottages
unnamed
Park View (4 households)
The Cottage
Quarry Cottage (3 households)
Tynant
unnamed
Gilfach Cottage
unnamed
The Rock
Penhefyd Farm
Pendown Cottage
unnamed
New House Farm
Peterstone Road
Pentrobane Farm [quite far to the north]

Rose Cottage does not appear. In the area where it would be expected (Tynant/Gilfach/The Rock) there are two households who do not have a named house, their address is simply St Fagan's Nr Cardiff. Is one of these today's Rose Cottage?
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