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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 October 25 17:04 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 October 25 18:28 BST (UK) »
I'm intrigued by the Francis Gashry Hanrott who pops up as a needle maker taking apprentices from the 1780s?

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 October 25 04:48 BST (UK) »
It is curious, Francis Gashry HANROTT bap 1754 to Francis and Elizabeth, apprenticed as a needle maker to Thomas WELLINGS in 1768. In 1775 he is admitted for Freedom of the city as a needlemaker.  In 1777 aged 22 he is admitted as a Freemason, occupation Chemist and Druggist.

Fascinating project Iain.

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 October 25 06:52 BST (UK) »
I have a surgeon rellie about that time (1800s actually)- it was suggested he might have been apprenticed to an apothocary  to train  as a surgeon/doctor

-Just wondering if, as a needle maker, maybe that could lead him on to surgery - if he used the needles he made . . .    Just a thought and supposition .   :-\ :-\

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 October 25 10:17 BST (UK) »
About the defence of Hougoumont AND THE MEDICAL AID
https://ageofrevolution.org/themes/science-technology/keep-hougoumont-at-what-price/

 
"There were two assistant surgeons for the 3rd Foot Guards. Assistant Surgeon Hanrott could have been present at Hougoumont, but since the second assistant surgeon of the 3rd Foot Guards, John Ward, was in Brussels, (he had been put in charge of a detachment of a sergeant and four privates to mind the heavy baggage and hospital equipment, and assisted with the many incoming casualties in the city), Hanrott probably remained back with the rest of the battalion on the ridge or, less likely, in the chateau with the Light Companies."

Included are some pictures of surgeons uniforms.
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 October 25 11:55 BST (UK) »
Somewhere along the line I've seen "Hanrott, needlemaker" associated with the address "The Poultry".
Also associated with "The Poultry" around this period is a firm of Druggists "Hanrott, Burkitt and Winstanley"

As you say, Maddy, a fascinating project

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 October 25 12:40 BST (UK) »
The Needlemaker was the Surgeons Father from what I have deduced :)

He is the one on the 1841 Census I posted.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 October 25 15:14 BST (UK) »
The Needlemaker was the Surgeons Father from what I have deduced :)

He is the one on the 1841 Census I posted.
My interest in the Hanrotts wasn't the army angle (the purpose of this post) and didn't want to post too much detail and be seen to hijack it. I'd found 3 FindMyPast records for Francis Jnr (one of which referred to him as "F Geo Hanrott) under Army. 

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« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 13:22 »
Absolutely fascinating…   Thank you everyone.  And all I asked for was a spelling verification.

I have been researching Hougoumont for about 15 years, and stories like this just keep ‘popping up’ from nowhere, like daisies on a freshly cut lawn.   
When I was on active service and on manoeuvres, I was always attached to Left Flank, the 2nd Battalion Scots Guards. (the Light Company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards)   Hence my interest in a scapegoat Courts-Martial for an incident, during this operation in the cidery room.  The 105-minute screenplay is finished, and I have a Netflix Producer who wants it.  However, I prefer to publish the 8-episode streamer, as it holds all the finer details…, lol…, like a needle maker.  It’s unfortunate that feature had to be slashed.  Pity !

The non-fiction story behind Good and Hanrott concerns a Captain by the name of George Evelyn.  Evelyn was the Company Commander at Quatre-Bras two days earlier.  Following the retreat to Waterloo, he relinquished command to Lt. Col. Charles Dashwood, who was wounded alongside Lt. Col. Henry Wyndham. (who would develop PTSD, and never close another door for the remainder of his life)
That, plus the death of another Lieutenant Colonel William Milne Grenadier Guards…, the affair needed a cover-up by the infamous Lt. Col. James Macdonell. (Coldstream)

Anyway, during the second breach of the Northgate, (10-yards away from Hanrott in the cidery room)  Evelyn was wounded in the arm.  Following the fascinating but unsuccessful breach by the French, Evelyn’s servant whisked him off to the surgery.   
And here’s another one of those ‘pop-up’ discoveries…  To get access to the arm, it was probably Hanrott who cut away the sleeve then threw it in a corner. (because John Ward was in Bruxelles  :))   Samuel Good then cleaned the wound, and Hanrott would have passed him the needle. (Oh My Goodness…, who needs a crystal ball with friends like you on RootsChat ?)
And its not finished.  Evelyns’ buttons and gold braid was unearthed by Waterloo Uncovered in 2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_J4tRwCyaU 

Lol…, little did Phill know that the Scots Guards well outnumbered the Coldstream at Hougoumont. (the Coldstream held the garden, not the buildings)

In the meantime, if you know of a Producer who wants an 8-episide streamer…, just let me know.  ;)
LOGLINE
A mass Courts-Martial of 34 innocent Waterloo soldiers. 
A miscarriage of justice shrouded in secrecy for over two hundred years,
unveils a scandal that will reshape the Waterloo legacy for the Brigade of Guards.
McArthur - Campbeltown and Tiree Scotland
Black - Campbeltown Scotland - Rathlin Ireland
MacFarlane - Tiree
Wood / Boorman / Gimber / Lee... KENT
Dennett / Mase / Varrier /  Over... KENT