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Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« on: Monday 06 October 25 19:25 BST (UK) »
We would dearly love to get a copy of the birth certificate for Morris Sand Zandt born supposedly on 3rd March 1905 in Poland (probably Warsaw).
I have attached pages and a photo from the Polish Passport issues to Morris.
Does a birth record for that time frame still exist?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Richard
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Jones Thomas Dickinson Paulsen Olsen Jackson Laidler Ramage Brown

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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 October 25 19:35 BST (UK) »
Front page of Polish Passport
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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 October 25 19:36 BST (UK) »
Details of Morris Zandt Sand
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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 October 25 19:37 BST (UK) »
Photo of Morris Zandt Sand.
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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 06:48 BST (UK) »
Please note that this passport issued in 1920 was under the authority of the Second Polish Republic which started in 1918. In 1905 Poland was partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia. Warsaw came under Russian Imperial power and any records may be in Russian and using the Julian calendar, or both Russian and Polish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Polish_Republic


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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 10:40 BST (UK) »
It might help to name his parents: Solomon Sand and Szeba Gans

Source:
I believe that this is his 1933 Manhattan marriage cert: https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/9904746
There are more persons with similar names, but this guy's occupation is the same as in his 1920’s naturalization file: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89HF-S7SG?i=39


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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 14:19 BST (UK) »
His first name on the passport in both Polish and French translates as Moses.


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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 15:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for your help.
The birth certificate for Morris (Moses) Sand Zandt may be elusive, but getting a certified copy of the marriage between Morris and Naomi (known in the family as Emma) will be a boon. We will continue to look for the birth certificate/record of course.
Family records have the parents of Morris as Solomon Sand Zandt and Sheba Gosherowski who apparently remained in Poland and died in 1938 and 1934 respectively.
Morris died on 26th December 1984 in Broward, Florida, USA. Emma (Naomi) died on 22nd May 2003 in Calistoga, California, USA.
Richard
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Re: Seeking Birth certificate for Morris Zandt Sand 1905 in Warsaw, Poland
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 16:45 BST (UK) »
https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/12482477#odsylacz_opis

Civil registration of births Warsaw 1905, in Cyrillic, there is a partial index at the end but it looks like C (Russian for S) is missing. I don't read enough Russian to search through for the correct entry.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland