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Offline Richard Knott

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Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« on: Monday 06 October 25 13:10 BST (UK) »
I am trying to track down this John and Maria:

1851 census    2 New Cleveland St, Leeds
John SHORT, 25, bricklayer with Maria, 20 and Ann, 2.

The only Ann SHORT I can find being born in Leeds c1849 is:

Baptism:   17 Jan 1849    d John (engine tenter) and Maria of Haymount Place, Leeds
Birth:   15 Dec 1848    d John (engine tenter) and Maria (nee PEARSON) of 7 Back Hay Mount Place

...which fits with this marriage in Wakefield:
1846     John SHORT, engineer s William  and Maria, minor (actually only 15!), d John PEARSON, bricklayer

Are these John and Maria couples the same people, with Maria's father persuading John to move from looking after engines to laying bricks? It seems an odd change.

Either way, I can't find any of them in later censuses with the possible exception of a Maria SHORT , mar, 30, charwoman b Bradford in 1861 (she was actually born in Leeds).

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Re: Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:14 BST (UK) »
Which of their children are you descended from?  When & where was that child born?

If you are descended from daughter Ann - have you followed her from 1861 onwards?  Where is she in 1861?
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Re: Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:18 BST (UK) »
George Short mmn Pearson was born 1854 Leeds - died 1854
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Re: Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:44 BST (UK) »
You may want to check this out

Birth of Edith Emma Gray 1859 Bradford mmn Pearson

See 1861 entry ref Piece  3319 Folio 3 Page 4 Mistranscribed as Grary.  Ann aged 12 b Leeds

1859 marriage George Gray to Maria Pearson - not Short

Son George Pearson Gray b 1862
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Re: Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:56 BST (UK) »
Well spotted and thanks - I did wonder whether Maria had remarried but hadn't looked into it.

I'm not actually related to any of them but have looked at John/Maria and earlier generations for someone else. I had assumed that the two John/Marias were the same, but suddenly thouight they might not be, so asked the question about engine tenter/bricklayer.

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Re: Did an engine tenter become a bricklayer? And where did he go?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:59 BST (UK) »
The 1859 marriage cert should show if she was a widow
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