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Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« on: Monday 06 October 25 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hi there. For many years now my research had a relative of mine had died at sea. this was indeed not a surprise as he was a sailor and I accepted it as the case.
His name was Hugo Kingborn around 1854 in Whitehaven, England. His father was William Alkin and his mother was Agnes. on 11/07/1871,age 18 he received his UK apprentice indenture for the merchant navy leaving Liverpool and signing-up for a 4 year period. Early records had his death listed in 1872. However things have recently come to light that suggest he actually left the ship and stayed in Australia. Could this be the case? 
Another thing, a total long shot, his grandfather and great uncle (guilders, glass makers and cabinet makers) always marked their work and an impressive 2-stage cabinet with inlay made 1851 was sold years later and apparently is now in Australia. Was this bought by members of a King family whose ancestor was  Hugo?  Any thoughts or ideas would be interesting.

Regards jardiner

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 October 25 12:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
His Admin for 31.5.1881 was granted to his brother Robert Dixon King saying he died sometime 1872 and onwards.
But actually the facts are that he deserted the Ship Patterdale at Melbourne 24/12/1872.
It then says Ind recd CC21 27.3.1873 .
That's on a list of apprentices indentured into the Navy 1824-1910.
I don't know what Ind or CC21 mean but no real proof he died.

So yes I think he just stayed.
Trouble is ,he could have just changed his name and disappeared.There is a Capt Hugh King died 1921 in South Australia but not sure it's him.

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 October 25 13:02 BST (UK) »
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), Sat 8 Feb 1879

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/199359756

HUGO KING — CALL on Mr. Little, 74 Johnston-Street, Collingwood; letters and money from Cumberland.

This might have been an attempt to get his attention if he was still alive.

Debra  :)




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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 October 25 14:49 BST (UK) »
May 1882… claims against Hugo’s share in fathers Will.. so still no proof Hugo if is alive or dead
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11540206
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202529073

… portion of the share of Hugo Walton King (son of William Alkin King, late of Whitehaven, in the county of Cumberland,…


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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 October 25 15:17 BST (UK) »
https://tinyurl.com/ms4spj24
Page 179 (185 of 218)
KING, HUGO WALTON, formerly of Co. Cumberland, Eng., supposed to reside in America

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 October 25 07:25 BST (UK) »
Ancestry.com.au
Death records England.
"Hugo Walton King  died Dec 1872 Whitehaven Cumberland Re No 10b437."
Also probate records:

Name   Hugo Walton King
Death Date   December 1872
Beneficiary's Name   Robert Dixon King
Event Type   Probate
Event Date   May 1883
Event Place   

Cumberland, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom

Probably worth purchasing his death cert to confirm.

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 October 25 08:31 BST (UK) »
Ancestry.com.au
Death records England.
"Hugo Walton King  died Dec 1872 Whitehaven Cumberland Re No 10b437."


Probably worth purchasing his death cert to confirm.

There is no death for Hugo Walton KING Dec qtr 1872 (10b/437). Actually that Volume/page is for Kendal.

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 October 25 11:14 BST (UK) »
Yes I see that.. it must be a transcription error but why has it listed his full name? According to probate he died 1872 place unknown.

Perhaps he died whilst in the Merchant Navy, at sea?

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Re: Did he die or just stayed in Australia?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 October 25 00:34 BST (UK) »

Perhaps he died whilst in the Merchant Navy, at sea?

As ciderdrinker noted, he deserted at Melbourne. This note on his apprenticeship record.