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148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 17:55 BST (UK) »
I am wondering if anyone can help me with a family project?
My Grandfather served with the 148th battery from 1915 until wounded in action in 1917.  In Feb 1915 he was billeted in Lytham st Annes before moving on to Fleetwood and then shipping out to Alexandria.  I am trying to contextualise his war time diary and am looking for any information that can help me pull the pieces together.  I have found a site called amoundness.co.uk that mentions the 148th briefly but that is all i can find.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 October 25 12:19 BST (UK) »
Hello & welcome
Can I say first that there was no 148th. Bty.
There was a 148th. Brigade which comprised of A,B,C & D Btys.
This was part of the 30th. Divisional Artillery.
Can we have more info. please.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 October 25 12:25 BST (UK) »
https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-royal-artillery-in-the-first-world-war/batteries-and-brigades-of-the-royal-field-artillery/cxlviii-cxlix-cl-and-cli-howitzer-brigades-30th-divisional-artillery/

Here you go. 

These units were formed in 1915 and are sometimes known as 148, 149, 150 and 151 Brigades RFA.

By February 1915 Lord Derby Derby had obtained from the War Office permission to raise the four artillery units required as part of a complete division. They would soon enough be granted the formal titles of the 148th to 151st Brigades of the Royal Field Artillery and were all sub-titled “County Palatine”. The brigades were established at Lytham St. Annes where they began training largely without proper uniform, equipment, transport or accommodation. It took several weeks for the full complement of men to be attracted to them. Each of the four brigades was essentially made up of men from a particular area but it is clear from the surviving service records that there was a certain amount of blurring.

CXLVIII (County Palatine)
This brigade joined 30th Division at Grantham by 13 August 1915. It comprised A, B, C and D Batteries, each of four 18-pounder field guns. You can see details of its battles and movements on the page describing the division  https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/30th-division/
On 16 May 1916 the Brigade’s Ammunition Column left to be merged into 30th Divisional Ammunition Column.
On 21 May 1916 D Battery left and joined 151 Brigade as its A Battery. It was replaced by the arrival of A (Howitzer) Battery from 151 Brigade, which was then renamed as D (Howitzer) Battery.
On 25-26 August 1916 C Battery was broken up, and its two-gun sections joined A and B Batteries to bring them up to six guns each. A Battery joined from 151 Brigade and became 148 Brigade’s C Battery.
On 2 January 1917 a two-howitzer section joined from D (Howitzer) Battery of 150 Brigade and was added to D (Howitzer) Battery.

If he went to Egypt and not France then he must have transferred after Lythan St Annes because 148 went to France.

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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 October 25 17:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you for the replies and the info.  That would be my fault.  My grandfather quotes in his diary "26th Feb (1915) - today, I am officially 2056 Gnr (presumably Gunner?) John Brown, D Sub, b battery, 148th Brigade"

That was my oversight.  He also states that by May they had moved to Fleetwood?


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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 08:23 BST (UK) »
Yes Gunner. 

The unit designation (name) would generally be a Troop, then the larger Battery and then Brigade.  The RA 'Brigade' would be classed as a 'Regiment' nowadays.

2056 is his regimental number and would be engraved on is medals.

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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 09:31 BST (UK) »
Lytham Times, 5 Mar 1915

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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 09:45 BST (UK) »
The Lytham Times ran a column entitled "Bits about the Troops".

Added - Apologies, a belated but nonetheless very warm welcome to Rootschat

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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 10:12 BST (UK) »
HT, I have tried and failed to find any mention of the 148th being at/moving to Fleetwood.

How about you?
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Re: 148th Battery Lytham st Annes 1915
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 October 25 11:37 BST (UK) »
His 15 Star Roll entry states he went overseas 26/12/1915 whereas his Div. (30th.)
went the previous month also the theatre of war entered was listed as "3" Egypt.
The 30th. Div. were in France.
Does the diary clarify this.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/