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Joyce Family
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 13:09 BST (UK) »
Looking for Descendants  of martin Joyce and Helena Gilligan married Dublin 9/9/ 1936 

Is there equivalent records to our 1939 records in Ireland

Hope som4one can point me in right direction

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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 October 25 14:07 BST (UK) »

(Male) Joyce
MMN:  Gilligan
Date:   July-September 1937
Dublin South, Co Dublin, Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F14V-FJ7?lang=en

(Female) Joyce
MMN:  Gilligan
Date:    April-June 1939
Dublin South, Co Dublin, Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F147-J8J?lang=en

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Is there equivalent records to our 1939 records in Ireland

Via AI:
No, there isn't a single, exact equivalent to the UK's 1939 National Register in the Irish Republic because it was a neutral country during WWII and didn't implement a similar, nationwide system for that specific purpose. However, for Northern Ireland, a register was created, but it has not been published or digitized.


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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 October 25 22:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Is there a Free births Deaths and Marriages that I can access to find out how many children they have and whether they married

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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 October 25 23:26 BST (UK) »
"and whether they married"

You give their date of marriage as 9.9.1936

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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 October 25 01:03 BST (UK) »
Their marriage certificate is here on Irish Genealogy - free to search
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08924/5227785.pdf

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie

Available civil records - births to 1924, marriages to 1949, deaths to 1974.

Or did you mean the children of Martin and Helena's marriages?

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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 October 25 09:35 BST (UK) »

Looking at the record, one witness at the 1936 marriage - Cornelia Gilligan. Helena's father Thomas Gilligan - a clerk. (at reply #4)

1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Britain_Street__Great/24384/
Cornelia aged 5 months. Helen(a) aged 2 yrs.
Helen born 15 October 1909.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1909/01594/1640496.pdf


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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 October 25 12:27 BST (UK) »
As the marriage was 1936 there is the possibility that any children could still be living
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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 October 25 13:36 BST (UK) »

The father of Helen - Thomas Gilligan married Mary Frances Smyth - 17 May 1906.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684332.pdf

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Re: Joyce Family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 October 25 17:21 BST (UK) »
Brilliant Thanks every one  I have found out  that Martin and Helena had at least two children who might still be alive
 If the are still living in Ireland where might I be able to find those records