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One twin has been forgotten and is never spoken of...
« on: Friday 03 October 25 02:50 BST (UK) »
Harry Blumberg TWIN
Birth ABT 14 Jun 1948 • New York, Kings, New York, USA Street Name Amboy. Dwelling Number 234 NEW YORK, USA
Death AFT 1950 CENSUS • NEW YORK STATE

Mother's Maiden Name was Mildred LABINER 1923-1998
B:26 Oct 1923 Brooklyn, New York USA
D:23 Apr 1998 probably San Diego, California, USA

The death of one twin has not been talked about in the family. Neither living twin brother nor younger sister have any knowledge, and both parents are now deceased.

The twins appear together on the 1950 US Census. 
I should value a lookup for his death record and certificate.

In American Jewish families, i understand that there is a tradition of 'a naming ceremony' that can take place a considerable time after the birth.  Perhaps the twins missed out on this ceremony?  Is there a central Jewish register that I might access please?
Many thanks.

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Re: One twin has been forgotten and is never spoken of...
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 October 25 09:45 BST (UK) »
You perhaps know this but if not the mother’s is the line Jewish family trees can be traced ,I asked at a local Synagogue which is now  museum ,The Spanish and Portuguese Synagogue in Manchester ,re family history and gave the first  name of a baby girl born the same date as I was ,and how I might trace her as my second name “ Viktoria” was her first name .
It was a Jewish family , I did not know her mother’s maiden name but the staff at the museum said it would be through the mother’s name that I could trace her ,that was helpful .
I just trawled through babies born the same day as I was , named Viktoria and found her ,.however her mother’s maiden name was not Jewish so her Jewish father had “ married out” .This was on F.B,M.D,where her father’s name was,and mother’s maiden name of course
Not sure how in this case the mother not being Jewish would affect Jewish  records .Thank goodness for the unusual spelling!
The family later emigrated to Australia.

Just thought this might be a little helpful,.
Viktoria.

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 October 25 09:47 BST (UK) »
There is only one BLUMBERG birth indexed anywhere near that date of birth and that is for the person who is still living.  Does he not have a copy of his own birth certificate which would record whether or not he was a twin?  The only way to get a birth cert from this time period would be to purchase it.

I can't see any likely deaths in the indexes either.

Debra  :)

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Re: One twin has been forgotten and is never spoken of...
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 October 25 12:22 BST (UK) »
I'm confused about what you meant that the living siblings had no knowledge.  Did the surviving family members not know that another sibling existed?  Or do they know he existed, but didn't have information about when/where he died? 

I don't see any entry in the birth index that seems likely to fit him.  If there's no other information indicating that he existed, it might be a census error.  The other siblings should check their birth certificates, as they may mention if there was a twin or how many children their mother previously had.

As far as I know, there's no repository of all Jewish births/naming ceremonies.  There are some (but not all) burials for Jewish cemeteries in New York on jewishgen.org, which is searchable with a free account.


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 October 25 13:24 BST (UK) »
SHELLEY
many thanks for your response and your interest in resolving this forgotten person who lived for at least 18 months.
The living twin is my brother-in-law [we are not a close family].  Unlike us, he showed no interest or curiosity in my gentle query about his missing twin, and the same result with his living sister.  That was before I spotted the twins on the 1950 US census.  I have since copied this census entry to my sister, who is also disinterested in Family History.  Whilst she now shows some interest in the census entry, she has made no further approach to her ex-husband or her sister-in-law.  I therefore move to the next stage of Public Records, Birth and Death certificates. I live in UK and am not familiar with the record systems in the US.


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« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 October 25 13:58 BST (UK) »
So someone else was aware of this twin before you saw the census?  Did this person know that the twin was deceased?  My concern is that the rules of Roots Chat are that living people or possibly living people aren't supposed to be discussed.  If there is a possibility that something else happened to the twin, like saying being institutionalized for medical reasons or being adopted out of the family, he could still be living. 

On the topic of vital records, they are typically held on the state, county, or town/city level in the US.  New York City holds its records independently, and birth records from that era are limited in availability.  If the person is living, only they or their parents can order the birth record. 

If the person is deceased, the following relations can request the birth certificate of a deceased person:

    Spouse
    Domestic partner
    Parent (if the deceased was 18 or younger)
    Child
    Sibling
    Niece/Nephew
    Aunt/Uncle
    Grandchild
    Grandniece/Grandnephew
    Great grandchild

-and proof must be provided that the person is deceased.

If the child passed away in New York City, there are limitations on the death record?

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 October 25 17:32 BST (UK) »
Could Harry be a relative's son that happened to be about the same age as the living child?
Are there any newspaper accounts of the birth of the living child or of Harry?

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 October 25 19:43 BST (UK) »
SHELLY,
"So someone else was aware of this twin before you saw the census?  Did this person know that the twin was deceased? "
NO, NOBODY ELSE seems to have any awareness or interest!

I do of course acknowledge the RC rules about not naming living people, BUT if his twin brother and his sister have never even heard mention of a pair of twins in the family, a common sense inference would be that one of the recorded twins was, in fact, deceased.   

Thank you for the long list of people who are permitted, in the US, to apply for a Birth Certificate, but only AFTER you can prove that he is deceased.  To me, this looks like getting into a Kafkaesque repeating and inescapable loop.  Please rescue me from this nightmare!

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 October 25 19:54 BST (UK) »
Could Harry be a relative's son that happened to be about the same age as the living child?
Are there any newspaper accounts of the birth of the living child or of Harry?
OLDOHIOHOME,
thank you for joining this puzzle!
You certainly have a novel idea of a spare child joining the family just for the 1950 census.  I will double check so see if there might be another possible 1948 born Harry. 
Interestingly, the grandfather of these twins was also known as HARRY!

Harry Blumberg
Birth 1876 • Poland
Death 19 JUN 1963 • , New York, New York, USA